EVE New Citizens Q&A

One possibility :
To train for Stealth Bombers, you need Frigate V in the race of your choice. It's also opening the way to Assault Frigates, with which you can complete level 1 to 3 missions.

Background:
I played for over 2 years in just about frigates only

Disclaimer:
You can do missions in frigates

Personal conclusion:
You would be better off financially quicker if you at least get a t2 fit cruiser or bc fit then specialize.


Narrative:
I flew frigates for a long time, I made enough to pay for my frigate losses with some exploration and pvp drops with some missions for standings and lp. When I decided to try flying bigger ships, the income level I had was very inadequate to support losses. I had to burn skills on bigger ships, then farm for my cash to get the bigger ships, just to get my income up to a point where losing 50-100 mil on a ships wasn't such a pain.

I tried another character who just did the old recommendations to get into a l4 ship early. This character had the income of L'ouris much earlier, and so when he was skilling all those lvl 5 skills for t2 frigates and support skills he was making decent money. My personal conclusion was that my first efforts to be a pure frigate pilot first and formost set me back quite a bit for income generation needed after my second year.

Tl;dr
Yes you can fly frigates exclusively, you won't think it bugs you until you want to try flying bigger ships in PvP. Getting a t2 fit bc at least is pretty fast and makes more ISK while you train into your t2 frigs.

You could aim for a Hawk

In the other hand, as Stealth Bomber, you will have to train torpedoes, so you could train for a BS Raven equiped with torpedoes (i'm no specialist of Caldari ships in level 4 missions, but it should do the job i guess).

It's a longer plan than "all frigate", but it will allow you to win much more money.

Because :



Mission running is a goal for some, and for others only a way to finance their goals.

i have scanned you down in a fecking Golum before mate, definitely somewhat larger than a frigate

If you are looking for ideas of what to try out I'll list a few:
Sisters of Eve epic arc
exploration
low level missions
Faction warfare
NPSI roams
high sec mission invasion
join a corp that does interesting group stuff
null sec belt ratting in a dessie or cruiser.

Thank you for all the replies! Will take everything that has been said into consideration.

My idea of what I want to do, whether it is achievable or not I'm not sure which is why I am here. I should have put more information in the OP.

Being able to pilot a bomber well is just one many goals, I don't want to just have the bare minimum skills. I will aim for Assault Frigates has many have said to help fund this goal. I can't honestly say what it is I want to do with 100% certainty as I'm sure I have no idea about a lot of things which again is why I am here.

I want to raid, be part of a small team doing hit and runs. Part of a corp that won't backstab each other but will double cross those outside the corp. Now quite a few have said I should stick with Missiles and get myself a Hawk to do some L2-L3 missions. Regarding the skills, should I aim for Frigate V immediately then get my Missiles and associated skills to V? What is the best way forward?

Regarding missions, I'll head now to a Sisters of EvE hub and get some going. When should I be ready for L2? How would I know?

Thank you.

What Ralph said is really good advice. Everyone has a different style in this game and there is no wrong way( I realize I said you're playing eve wrong earlier ). So definitely getting all 4 race's frig and small weapons to 3 is a good short term goal. Then you can see which ships and weapons systems fit your style. After that you can focus but if you are sticking to small ships, which is not only totally doable but according to many pilots ideal, then you can get into T2 ships and weapons pretty quick.

You'll want to get your fitting and navigation skills up as well. Early on and especially once you get into T2 ships trying to find a decent fit that does not require you to use a whole bunch of rigs and module slots up on fitting enhancers is going to be challenging.

But if you just start flying different ships and getting a feel for the game you won't really need anyone to tell you what to train after a while. You'll have a good idea what you want to do and what skills you need to make it happen.

A broad spectrum of skills is really the best way to go about anything in EvE. While you could train into the Astero in week or so you would have no support skills to make it work well this is a prime example of the difference between being able to sit in and pilot a specific ships and being reasonably proficient is using it. Using the Astero as an example the supporting skills would add week if not a month or more to your training time.

How are your capacitor skills?
Shield skills if your going shield tanked ?
Armor skills if you are going armor tanked?
Targeting skills?
Computer skill?
Rigging skills?
And the list goes on and on.
There is a list of basic skills that friends of mine in this game prepared years ago and I try to keep it up to date with changes but I make no promises that it is. That list is below and it will give you an idea of what I mean when I say support skills.


Technically you are ready when you have 1.0 or higher standings with an NPC.
When your skills as a player are ready and are you there yet is hard to determine withou flying with you and watching how you handle the NPC and the missions. Ultimately the only way to know is to go try one and see what happens.

Now that skills list, remember this my not be up to date. Many of these skills are only needed for specific activities like mining or manufacturing, again we try to note that in the list but we may have missed some.
Posting your ship fit or fits if you fly multiple ships would allow us to help narrow down the list to skills that would be more appropriate for you.

One last caution before the list. In your first 9 months to year in the game training level 5 skills is usullay not recommended UNLESS they are needed as prerequisites. An example of that is Frigate 5 which is a prereq for the cov-ops / stealth bombers and the Assault frigates

This list is broken down into the same categories and listed in the same order as they are in the market to make it easier to find them, the one exception is the basic skills at the top of the list.

**** Basics **** - good skills for every pilot
Advanced Weapons Upgrades - engineering
Hull Upgrades -armor
Mechanics - armor
CPU Management - engineering
Capacitor Management - engineering
Capacitor Systems Operation - engineering
Power Grid Management - engineering
Weapons Upgrades - engineering


**** Armor **** - if you fly armor tanked ships
Armor Layering
Armor Resistance Phasing
EM Armor Compensation
Explosive Armor Compensation
Kinetic Armor Compensation
Themic Armor Compensation
Repair Systems

**** Drones **** - required for drones pilots, good to have for everyone else
Drones
Drone Avionics
Drone Durability
Drone Interfacing
Drone Navigation
Drone Sharpshooting
Light Drone Operation
Medium Drone Operation
Heavy Drone Operation

**** Optional Drones Skills ****
Sentry Drone Interfacing
Amarr Drone Specialization
Caldari Drone Specialization
Gallente Drone Specialization
Minmatar Drone Specialization
Repair Drone Operation
Salvage Drone Operation - needed to use salavage drones
Mining Drone Operation - needed to use mining drones
Advanced Drone Avionics

**** Electronic Systems ****
Many of these skills can be considered requirements but which ones you need depend on the ships you fly and what you want to do in the game.

**** Engineering **** - skills for everyone
Advanced Weapons Upgrades
Electronics Upgrades
Energy Grid Upgrades
Nanite Operation - for armor tank pilots or those that use nanite paste
Thermodynamics

**** Gunnery **** - for those using turret based weapons only
Gunnery
Controlled Bursts
Motion Prediction
Rapid Firing
Sharpshooter
Surgical Strike
Trajectory Analysis
Specialization skills as needed

**** Missiles **** - for those using missiles, rockets or torpedoes only
Missile Bombardment
Missile Launcher Operation
Missile Projection
Rapid Launch
Target Navigation Prediction
Warhead Upgrades
Specialization skills as needed

**** Navigation **** - good for everyone, considered requirements for PvP
Acceleration Control
Afterburner
Evasive Maneuvering
Fuel Conservation
High Speed Maneuvering
Navigation
Warp Drive Operation

**** Neural Enhancement ****
Cybernetics - needed for implants and skill hardwires
Infomorph Psychology - needed for jump clones

**** Resource Processing ****
Primarily this whole tree is for those in mining and manufacturing

**** Rigging **** - good for everyone
Armor Rigging
Astronautic Rigging
Jury Rigging
Shield Rigging
Specialization skills as needed

**** Shields **** - if you fly sheild tanked ships
EM Shield Compensation
Explosive Shield Compensation
Kinetic Shield Compensation
Shield Compensation
Shield Management
Shield Operation
Shield Upgrades
Tactical Shield Manipulation
Thermic Shield Compensation

**** Social ****
Connections
Fast Talk
Social
Optional
Criminal Connections