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Drone-carrying Industrial
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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-05-23 21:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Herald

2 high slots, 1 turret hardpoint
2 mid slots
6 low slots

110MW powergrid, 210Tf CPU

22,500 m3 drone bay, 10mbit/sec bandwidth
2000m3 cargohold

Amarr Industrial Skill Bonuses:
10% bonus to ship drone bay per level
5% bonus to ship max velocity per level

Role bonuses:
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue
Ship is able to launch derelict drones and fighters
Can scoop all drones in range at once

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-05-23 22:36:38 UTC
Why?
Iain Cariaba
#3 - 2015-05-23 22:48:54 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Why?

Agreed, seems rather pointless. Ship does nothing not already done better by other ships.
Atomeon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-05-23 22:49:11 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Why?

To move around drones and sell then to Hubs?
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2015-05-23 22:51:26 UTC
I don't really see the point of this.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-05-23 23:12:22 UTC
It can drop derelict drones in space, already folded out. These can be scooped up directly into other players' drone bays for immediate use without docking or using a fitting service.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-05-23 23:21:10 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
It can drop derelict drones in space, already folded out. These can be scooped up directly into other players' drone bays for immediate use without docking or using a fitting service.



With a 5mbit bandwidth, all you can drop is one light at a time, so...this would be kind of useless for that. Any other industrial with a depot would be better. A nerus or however you spell it would actually be better at this role than your ship.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-05-23 23:23:02 UTC
You're right.

I adjusted the bandwidth...I hope it doesn't turn it into battle badger 2.0.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2015-05-23 23:38:51 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
You're right.

I adjusted the bandwidth...I hope it doesn't turn it into battle badger 2.0.


You just made it the hardest hitting industrial, of course it does. 145 DPS with acolyte IIs, three DDAs, and an essentially infinite supply of drones.
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
#10 - 2015-05-23 23:45:03 UTC
Idea: Industrial Command Mining Droneboat.

ability to use 10 mining drones (+1 Mining drone per level bonus) does not work on combat drones

Mining Warefare Module bonus.. Maybe able to use 2 or 3 at a time?
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
#11 - 2015-05-24 00:07:56 UTC
I could get behind this if it had literally 0 bandwidth.

Basically a T1 hauler that can haul a flight of fighters/bombers out to a super or between trade hubs. As far as allowing it to actually use the drones in it's bay... no. While it's still a T1 hauler, thats still effectively an infinite drone bay for it's purposes even with 5-25 mb/s
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-05-24 00:12:37 UTC
Nasar Vyron wrote:
I could get behind this if it had literally 0 bandwidth.

Basically a T1 hauler that can haul a flight of fighters/bombers out to a super or between trade hubs. As far as allowing it to actually use the drones in it's bay... no. While it's still a T1 hauler, thats still effectively an infinite drone bay for it's purposes even with 5-25 mb/s



You can already put eight in an iteron V or a bestower, use a DST if you really want to haul more than that.

Or use a damn carrier to haul fighters to your super.
Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort
#13 - 2015-05-24 01:39:24 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Nasar Vyron wrote:
I could get behind this if it had literally 0 bandwidth.

Basically a T1 hauler that can haul a flight of fighters/bombers out to a super or between trade hubs. As far as allowing it to actually use the drones in it's bay... no. While it's still a T1 hauler, thats still effectively an infinite drone bay for it's purposes even with 5-25 mb/s



You can already put eight in an iteron V or a bestower, use a DST if you really want to haul more than that.

Or use a damn carrier to haul fighters to your super.


I already do that. Just said it''s the only way it could ever be implemented. You need to calm down buddy.
Panty Stocking
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-05-24 02:33:11 UTC
is an aoe autoscoop function included? im just thinking of the aftermath of huge nullbattles and the thousands of abandoned drones
Kashadin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-05-24 02:52:37 UTC
Panty Stocking wrote:
is an aoe autoscoop function included? im just thinking of the aftermath of huge nullbattles and the thousands of abandoned drones




As long as it has a giant vacuum effect that comes out of the front of the thing.
Iain Cariaba
#16 - 2015-05-24 04:16:43 UTC
Kashadin wrote:
Panty Stocking wrote:
is an aoe autoscoop function included? im just thinking of the aftermath of huge nullbattles and the thousands of abandoned drones




As long as it has a giant vacuum effect that comes out of the front of the thing.

No, the ship must animate, and transform into this.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-05-24 05:39:03 UTC
Okay, I cut down its bandwidth to less than the Nereus, and instead gave it a role bonus to facilitate its secondary role.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2015-05-24 20:56:38 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Okay, I cut down its bandwidth to less than the Nereus, and instead gave it a role bonus to facilitate its secondary role.



Thus giving ishtar/domi/gila fleets an infinite supply of replacement drones, removing one of their only weaknesses for the price of an alt in a cloaked industrial.

Justify this please.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-05-24 23:18:42 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
You can already put eight in an iteron V or a bestower, use a DST if you really want to haul more than that.

Or use a damn carrier to haul fighters to your super.

You can say the same for any of the Specialised haulers, god knows it'd probably get used more than Hoarders. Amarr Indies are fairly underwhelming, It's a harmless way to add value.

Travelling at the speed of love.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-05-24 23:20:03 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Thus giving ishtar/domi/gila fleets an infinite supply of replacement drones, removing one of their only weaknesses for the price of an alt in a cloaked industrial.

Justify this please.

It doesn't work cloaked, of course. They would have to be within scoop range of an uncloaked Herald. Were the fleet under bombardment, none of them would be able to cloak and the Herald probably wouldn't last that much longer than the heavies. Sentries, of course, would be wiped out quickly.

Ishtar fleets aren't broken due to being able to push out more drones, but rather because of how many they can push out at once compared to their mobility. Nobody complains about Dominix fleets because those have the same power as Ishtars for about the same price and far less mobility. I'm not sure about Gilas but last time I checked (which was several months ago) they were fine. It's not drone ships that are broken. It's Ishtars that are broken. Lower the bandwidth of the Ishtar to 100mbit/sec and it's fixed.

Fleets able to survive firewalling runs and keep pushing out drones are pretty cool, but fleets getting their drones firewalled isn't even that common. What's a lot more common is Archon or Ishtar fleets that never lose any drones because they obliterate everything in seconds.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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