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Broadsword empire pod killer - How is it possible??
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Lunarra
Enslave.
#1 - 2011-12-28 10:21:51 UTC
Hi everyone,

How is it possible to fit a broadsword that can kill pods in epire during wars?

Yesterday i bought a Vigil (yes even old players enjoy some Vigil goodness). That ship wasn't fitted yet when i crossed the way of a war target Broadsword on the other side of a gate.
I thought, good luck catching me and proceed to warp.

First surpriseUgh: He warp scrambled me, ok fair enough, he might be super sensor boosted, and being an empty Vigil i thought well who gives a damn, so proceeded to spam warp until i pop so i can save my pod.

Second surpriseShocked: While i was spamming warp since he got me my pod should have been able to escape. Particulary in empire since there are no bubbles etc.
Well no!!!!!! As soon as i popped my pod was locked!!!!!!!


I want to know how is that possible.
Also, looking at my killer KB i can see that guy is the pro of empire pod killing, pretty much all his victime got pod killed in empire. If you wanna look for his name: Bulletproof Cupid

Thanks for your help!
Alina Wize
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-28 10:28:32 UTC
Being a member of The 0rphanage automatically grants you a non-penalized scan resolution bonus.
Lunarra
Enslave.
#3 - 2011-12-28 10:32:17 UTC
Can i join them?! I want that thing!
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#4 - 2011-12-28 10:41:53 UTC
If you have war against certain high sec corps/alliances it really means that high sec is no more safe place to move.
Lunarra
Enslave.
#5 - 2011-12-28 10:48:36 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
If you have war against certain high sec corps/alliances it really means that high sec is no more safe place to move.

I got that, I played since 2006 in 0.0 and empire but thanks for the advice!

I just want to know how someone with a broadsword can insta lock pods!
Milo Caman
Anshar Incorporated
#6 - 2011-12-28 10:59:01 UTC
Yeah, if HICs/Lokis/Whatevers fit enough SeBos and there's not much lag, they can indeed lock pods before they warp.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-12-28 11:02:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Probably had a whole bunch of Remote Sensor Boosters coming from a Neutral Alt on him. You can get lock time down too about 1.4 seconds on a Broadsword if you poor on the Rebo's
Lunarra
Enslave.
#8 - 2011-12-28 11:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarra
Milo Caman wrote:
Yeah, if HICs/Lokis/Whatevers fit enough SeBos and there's not much lag, they can indeed lock pods before they warp.


Alara IonStorm wrote:
Probably had a whole bunch of Remote Sensor Boosters on him. You can get lock time down too about 1.4 seconds on a Broadsword if you poor on the Rebo's


Even if we've been spamming warp before the ship destruction? I never had any issues with this well known pod saving tactic in 6 years of game. I thought that was making pod warp pretty much instant after destruction.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2011-12-28 11:05:52 UTC
There was a thread over this pod not warping instantly earlier. Some said those commands spammed cause the server to lag out and wont happen as fast as you had hoped or something. Maybe you can go back and find it.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-28 11:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Well ... works as intended.

People who believe that their pods are safe,
just because they spam a button ...

... well ... too bad, you're wrong.

Around 1700-2000 scanres should be enough to instalock,
especially if he has a good connection.

I'm also pretty glad that it's not possible anymore to just spam a button
to get the pod out ... it shouldn't be that easy anyway.

That said ... too bad .. hope you had implants! :)
Brunmunde Hildegaard
The Green Machine
That Escalated Quickly.
#11 - 2011-12-28 11:54:09 UTC
ITT: delicious veteran tears =D

TL;DR Broadys with mass sebo > pods regardless of button spam

o7 Have a nice day

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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#12 - 2011-12-28 11:55:34 UTC
from my experience it's working as intended, even if your gamelogs and screenshots will show you as in warp and sometimes tens of AU away when your pod goes pop, it cannot be verified on the server side.

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
Necrovian
Floppy Disk Industries
#13 - 2011-12-28 11:58:39 UTC
"unable to warp as interferance from bulletproof cupids warp disruptor produces tears"

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Miyahon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-28 11:59:43 UTC
This is a relatively new thing I have experienced and wonder if there has been a small change somewhere, unannounced by CCP. It's probably working as intended, as it has been for a while, but just takes the right circumstances to occur. A nice fast locking ship, perhaps a bit of lag somewhere, goodbye pod.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#15 - 2011-12-28 12:03:19 UTC
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Man Milk
Ugly Duckling Inc
#16 - 2011-12-29 03:56:43 UTC
No remote sensor boosting alts. You have any idea how many pods/cloakies are targeted with no more than a muttering of "arse" "almost" or "poop"? Every now and again a get tha jackpot. There's no magic. It's 50/50, ya get tha lock, ya don't get tha lock. It's all fun tho, only a game, for every kill there's a load more ya miss. Hi 5's for taking it in ya stride and not rage quiting. Hopefully see ya around with some nice loots for Sexy. Time. to scoop up. :)

'Fail we may. Sail we must.'
Joz Yavavich
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-29 04:08:12 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Probably had a whole bunch of Remote Sensor Boosters coming from a Neutral Alt on him. You can get lock time down too about 1.4 seconds on a Broadsword if you poor on the Rebo's



When a warp field disruptor is active, no remote effects will work on the HIC.

No remote reps, no cap transfer, no shield transfer nothing.

This includes a scripted infinity point.

He had a rack of local sebo's.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-12-29 04:11:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Man Milk wrote:
No remote sensor boosting alts. You have any idea how many pods/cloakies are targeted with no more than a muttering of "arse" "almost" or "poop"? Every now and again a get tha jackpot. There's no magic. It's 50/50, ya get tha lock, ya don't get tha lock. It's all fun tho, only a game, for every kill there's a load more ya miss. Hi 5's for taking it in ya stride and not rage quiting. Hopefully see ya around with some nice loots for Sexy. Time. to scoop up. :)




Sigh...


I can't imagine people still buying the whole no neut rr, no remote sebo, no command bonus bul*sh*t. I mean, everyone who is anyone does it these days, it is not just a "privateers in Jita thing" anymore. It is a game mechanic and CCP has no problem with it, so accept the fact that people know that you do it and be a happier orphan.


I do it too.
See how easy that was?

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2011-12-29 04:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
unfourtunately I dont own one of these marvelous ships nor have the skills to fly one or I be able to test it out for you. I am pertty sure I can reproduce it since Im only like a month away from completing electronics.

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Aamrr
#20 - 2011-12-29 04:23:35 UTC
Joz Yavavich wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Probably had a whole bunch of Remote Sensor Boosters coming from a Neutral Alt on him. You can get lock time down too about 1.4 seconds on a Broadsword if you poor on the Rebo's



When a warp field disruptor is active, no remote effects will work on the HIC.

No remote reps, no cap transfer, no shield transfer nothing.

This includes a scripted infinity point.

He had a rack of local sebo's.


Except, and do correct me if I'm wrong, but...
don't you activate that infinity point after you've acquired lock? Lol
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