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EVE What have I become ?

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Dark Eulogy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-05-19 21:13:33 UTC
Hello Fellow Space Adventurers

When I play EVE online, when I Make Active an autocannon equipped hurricane, I feel like an unstoppable beast, ready to rain justice against my foes

But this post is not about those feelings

No, for I do not feel like a bear-warrior, mad with wild fury, but a bear stricken by inner turmoil - by its own feelings

Recently through means I will not disclose I waited for a target to strike in an act of piracy

At last the moment arrived, and as I launched the fatal strike with adrenaline beating through my veins, I felt triumph as the ship exploded

Fun and gratifying as always, I felt great - my mission was a success

My target, like those before it, was nothing to me but a hauler that had until recently been flying through space with valuable cargo

It is true that just before I fired, the Green shade on my overview told me the hauler was a fellow corp member, a fellow Brutor, and this gave me pause: a mistake that could have doomed my attack, if I had not quickly wiped it from mind and fired

I saw Corp chat blinking later, after I had recovered from my ambush, and the player was asking how a fellow corp member could have destroyed his ship in safe space

Suddenly, other feelings slowly made their way into my previous feeling of triumph

I felt like I was driving a vehicle made of pure glory at 100 MPH, so happy was I with my attack

But upon seeing this player type, it felt like a rock had kicked up and dented my windshield; what was once pure, was now imperfect, and while small nicks can be ignored, the cracks were quickly spreading

NPC-corp member or not, for truly it was not the thought of him being a fellow brutor that troubled me, but the thought of him as a real person, playing EVE

Would he Log off, sad, as if he had been punched in the feelings? Would he go to sleep feeling hurt? Did I destroy all or most of what he had ingame? Would he quit EVE?

He wrote that he had lots ships in high-sec before, and did not understand why. I thought, if I wasn't the one to send him out, surely another person would in due time?

I felt that did not excuse my actions, and I even considered reimbursing him for his loss.

No, I thought. I am a pirate, in a space game.

Or am I? What are these feelings I am feeling?

There may have been a time when I was younger and less mature when I would have had only a hearty laugh at the thought of seizing plunder from another player. I am unsure if this change is for the better, or not.

I soon planned on battling in 0.0 space, but will I be comfortable there? The players may be aware of the danger they place themselves in, but just as every killmail is a record of victory, so too is it a testament to another player's sadness.

Please advise me, this is serious


Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-05-19 21:20:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
You have become a ganker of fake internet space pixels, nothing more, nothing less. Don't think too much about it, it's a game. If people want to get emotionally invested in their space pixels, that is their issue not yours. One can learn about their ignorance in one of two ways. They can be told, or they can be shown. Showing someone will always be more effective than telling them. As you mentioned, if you didn't do it some one else would have.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5669983#post5669983


Use a cruiser against a tank that poor in .5, Nado is a waste of money unless you are in .7 or above. Then again, if they are foolish enough to put 800 mil in a paper thin hauler, I guess there is still plenty of margin.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#3 - 2015-05-19 21:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dun'Gal
Nice post, too bad I can only say it was a nice piece of fiction, what with the "friendly fire" vs NPC corpmates. Or has that changed recently and I completely missed it?

Edit: Nvmd, read like he survived the attack - was obviously a suicide gank.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#4 - 2015-05-19 22:08:25 UTC
I would be more worried about the fact that some devious hacker has apparently wired your carriage return to your full stop key, personally.
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2015-05-19 22:09:38 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
I would be more worried about the fact that some devious hacker has apparently wired your carriage return to your full stop key, personally.

Too many carriage returns is preferable to none.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-05-19 22:20:55 UTC
Finding the proper balance between having fun and harassing some one is the key. The fact is, NPC corps are just where players who haven't the time or desire to join a player Corp are. And unless you are hunting them down regularly they were just another target nothing more nothing less.

Don't mix real life feelings with space pixles, but don't attack them as a person just as a ship.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#7 - 2015-05-19 22:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
What have I become, my sweetest friend? Everyone I know goes away, in the end.

...and you could have it all... my empire of dirt... I will let you down... I will make you hurt.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#8 - 2015-05-19 23:37:03 UTC
Dark Eulogy wrote:

No, I thought. I am a pirate, in a space game.

I soon planned on battling in 0.0 space, but will I be comfortable there? The players may be aware of the danger they place themselves in, but just as every killmail is a record of victory, so too is it a testament to another player's sadness.

Please advise me, this is serious



The way of the pirate is addictive.

Battling in 00 is also addictive.

Enjoy your time in EvE, shooting other players spaceships, but do recall there is a person behind the screen.

(A hacker has wired my full stop to the return, I believe that hacker is Sol)
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2015-05-19 23:48:38 UTC
A long time ago i made a pirate alt. I'm naturally a care bear with some claws, but really wanted to try.

I would go to belts ready to shoot someone... until they said hi.. then i just could;t do it.

Quickly realized that i can defend my home space, but piracy is not for me..

sigh

lol

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Nevil Oscillator
#10 - 2015-05-20 00:18:23 UTC
Enjoy your short lived victory while it lasts degenerate pirate

I am the law

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#11 - 2015-05-20 01:16:12 UTC
That was a well-written piece, I thought. Here's a Cliff Notes version, with possible questions to expect in the exam:

-The protagonist destroyed the ship of a fellow member of his group. He felt the thrill of winning a victory, but now contemplates the perspective of the victim, and his own role as a betrayer. Discuss.
-As a secondary theme, the protagonist considers moving into the lawless area of Null Sec. It is inferred that he would continue to do the same or similar actions there. Possible questions for discussion:
Arrow If the protagonist shoots a similar victim, who voluntarily put himself in a lawless situation, is the ethical consideration lightened? Discuss.
Arrow If you shoot your own corpie in Null Sec, is there any possible way you will survive? Are the rules of "It's Just a Game" different as applied to Null Sec and High Sec? Discuss.

Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-05-20 02:10:07 UTC
There is always the risk to hurt someone's feelings while PvPing. But there are ways to limit this risk : don't attack easy defenceless people. Go to places where most people are here to fight (in theory), like low sec, null sec, worm space. Hunt pirats, gankers, gate campers, null sec colonialists... hunt the evil !
Hicksimus
Torgue
#13 - 2015-05-20 02:22:31 UTC
I became a beautiful princess.

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-05-20 06:03:03 UTC
Be the evil. Don't feel bad about it. NPC corps aren't really real corps anyways, so no reason to feel any loyalty to anyone else in them. What matters is that you had fun.

Judging from your post I didn't see any real malice in your act, so it's not like you went out of your way to be hurtful to said player. You just blew up his spaceship in a game that encourages blowing up spaceships. I've had my own haulers kersplatted in the past as well and it did kind of tick me off. I wasn't peeved at the ones who exploded me so much as myself for taking a foolish risk and suffering the consequences. It's just the game.

That feeling of pure awesome? Hold on to THAT. It's a big step in the right direction for evolving your mindset from prey to predator. Again and again, and eventually when you enter a dark scary place you become the boogeyman that stalks in the night rather than the guy looking under his bunk for him in fear.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#15 - 2015-05-20 15:55:00 UTC
Too many paragraphs, bruh.

Cool story
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-05-20 21:21:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
I joined a corp that happened to be wardecced when I was a newbie, packed up all my belongings into a catalyst and flew off to wherever they were living. Marmite blew up my catalyst and a few jumps later I landed on top of holysheets phobos and lost my pod trying to jump a gate.

I was kind of upset.


Honestly I feel bad when I do bad things to people in game who don't deserve it, but if you **** me off be sure to not put yourself into any ... Exploitable situations.

Last guy I actually got my hands on was first a grief target in an ice belt. Guy made a few fights I learned from, nearly took a buffer arbitrator down with a tristan lulz. Anyways he was russian and wouldn't use his killright on me, not till he got a drake on my barge in a belt. I was already ejected and on my way to grab a fighting ship once he grabbed it.

I didn't get back in time to kill the guy, no worries though. He lost his mackinaw to a talos afterwords. Even if I started the whole sherade ( I dunno how to spell it).


If you're a **** I will try to kill you but usually I feel bad when I kill a newbie or some innocent just minding his own in highsec, hell even lowsec sometimes I feel bad. Which is why I don't pvp often and also why I suck so much at it.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Paranoid Loyd
#17 - 2015-05-20 21:24:25 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
sherade ( I dunno how to spell it).

charade

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#18 - 2015-05-20 21:26:30 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
I would be more worried about the fact that some devious hacker has apparently wired your carriage return to your full stop key, personally.

People still say "carriage return"?
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-05-20 21:26:55 UTC
It's like gremmar all over again. \o/


*grammar*

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2015-05-21 00:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Lost Greybeard wrote:
I would be more worried about the fact that some devious hacker has apparently wired your carriage return to your full stop key, personally.

People still say "carriage return"?

It's probably on the UN's Endangered Languages words list.

Anyway, it's kind of all about intentions, eh? How many stories have you seen about "Guy blew me up, but was cool, replaced my ship, and showed me the basic ropes about PVP"? That probably won't happen if you shoot the guy's pod and erase him from Local chat. He's in a clone in some other system, in that system's Local. Not much possibility for comparing AARs and comparative attitudes, eh?
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