EVE General Discussion

Without great evil there cannot be great good.

That is the essence of Eve and why CCP not only facilitates, but embraces such shenanigans as lying, cheating, ganking, scamming, stealing and general douchebaggery as it was put above. You can indulge in these aspects of the game, "Be the Villain" as it were, or you can band together and fight it, building and securing a place for yourself and your aliies in New Eden and against the darkness.

This isn't all just marketing hype, but it is a real design goal of the developers. It suppose to be a dark and "negative" universe but playing the game isn't suppose to be a grim experience. You can easily play the game with a "positive mindset" enjoying the pretty explosions, the satisfaction of harvesting resources or building things in the face of people trying to stop you, or the camaraderie of friends working towards a common goal in the sandbox. You can build a goodly empire and carve out a place for yourself but Eve is a competitive PvP game, so you are not entitled to expect success for your efforts - in fact many, even most times you will explode or be betrayed before you reach your goals. Just like a chess player, you cannot expect to win all of your matches.

Remember this is just a game, and a sandbox game at that. The fun has to come from the journey not the destination. Unlike traditional MMOs you are not likely to ever save/conquer the kingdom and even if you do, the game will not declare you a winner. If you cannot accept being beaten from time-to-time, or even regularly if you take any risks in this game, Eve is probably not the game for you.

The people who are on the other side of the game client (usually) do not hate you or wish to cause you personally harm when they kick down your sandcastle, they are just playing a game where we build and kick down each other's sand castles. That is Eve, AKA, Everyone vs. Everyone.

So many people having no clue what they are talking about.

Just wanted to comment on people commenting on PvE in EVE.

PvE in EVE is the second worst that I have ever seen in any MMO game ever (the first place holder is World of Warplanes).
It's just so scripted, repetitive and lame.

I have tried high sec, low sec, null sec, and wormhole space PvE and found them all to be equally dull.

It's always go there, kill those guys, and take their stuff.

The only factor that ever changes is the strength of the NPCs. I think CCP can do much better.

Another thing that sucks about PvE is that it's confined to specific locations - sites and anomalies.

I don't know about you guys but I, for one, would love to get ambushed by a herd of wild Sansha cruisers that can and will scram my a*s at whatever random location.

Whether it's a game or not is irrelevant to the point. Human psychology is involved in everything that we do. I took the OP's real life comparisons to be more for descriptive purposes than any literal intent.
You can "lol es onleh gayme" all you want, but to try to say that you can completely detach your psyche from your interactions with it, is not only dishonest, but downright ridiculous.

That's the most confusing response I got in quite a while.

There is actually something to add.

I observed that there seems to be the attempt to shift people into positive thinking.
I know you won't follow the thought, but it's being heavily pushed into the people's
minds by the WWE which is being watched by millions of people.

And they own the twittersphere.

Really interesting to see the WWE aggressively play the meta.
And it's the first time I recall them actually doing it so intensely.

So directly. The manipulation is obvious.
I wonder about the future meta of TV shows.

That's PvE in pretty much every multiplayer game ever.

The role of wild Sansha cruisers is already fulfilled by other players.

You should probably just calm down a bit and then try again with the intention to suck less this time around.

Well like you said the person is permantnetly turned off so.. Can I have your stuff?



The root issue is what the feelings are about, not the related issue, which is what you're trying to say.

Drink beer, buy a couple of escorts.