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Harbi solo PvP fit I'm thinking about
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Selinate
#1 - 2011-12-28 04:13:42 UTC
Just made this, want advice on it. Let me know what you think.

7x Heavy Pulse II

Medium Cap Booster II
10 MN MWD II
X5 Prototype 1 Engine Enervator (T1 web)
Warp Scrambler II

Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
3x Heat Sink II

2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump
Medium Energy Burst Aerator

w/o drones it's 690 DPS with conflagration
41k EHP

Fairly tight fit, but I wanted to make a high dps harbi that gets in quick and does the job. Recommendations?
Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-28 04:33:55 UTC
Mixing Armor rigs with nano is not a good thing.

[Harbinger, Standard Nano]
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Selinate
#3 - 2011-12-28 04:39:14 UTC
With pulses, why are you using a tracking enhancer? Wouldn't it be better to use more heat sinks instead for higher dps? I thought the tracking and optimal range would already be good enough.
Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-28 04:51:52 UTC
Selinate wrote:
With pulses, why are you using a tracking enhancer? Wouldn't it be better to use more heat sinks instead for higher dps? I thought the tracking and optimal range would already be good enough.


That fit is designed to kite stuff over 20km.

Looked now that you have a scram and a web, if you want to go "in your face" use a complete armor set-up. I have done this eft warrioring in this 5 minutes so prolly i will not be the best option but something to work around

[Harbinger, Armor]
Internal Force Field Array I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


70k ehp
620 deepees with Imperial Navy
You can replace the neut with a nos, or use the booster for countering neuts and shoot (!) and use neut only vs frigates
It' s a brick btw and some module are a big expensive, like the meta DC
Selinate
#5 - 2011-12-28 05:05:29 UTC
Kn1v3s 999 wrote:


That fit is designed to kite stuff over 20km.

Looked now that you have a scram and a web, if you want to go "in your face" use a complete armor set-up. I have done this eft warrioring in this 5 minutes so prolly i will not be the best option but something to work around

[Harbinger, Armor]
Internal Force Field Array I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


70k ehp
620 deepees with Imperial Navy
You can replace the neut with a nos, or use the booster for countering neuts and shoot (!) and use neut only vs frigates
It' s a brick btw and some module are a big expensive, like the meta DC


That's very similar to one of my other fits, someone said it sucked so I thought I might look into making a new one with heavy pulses instead. Interesting that you brought up this kind of fit also.

Only difference with mine is I have a sebo in place of the cap booster, 3 heat sinks instead of 2 in place of the internal force field array. Also I used 3 trimarks instead of the resist rig.

Thanks for the help btw.
MinorFreak
Ordo Arcana
#6 - 2011-12-28 06:33:27 UTC
so why the MicroWarpDrive? this a null sec requirement? I'm used to low sec and fights where capacitor endurance plays a part in solo or small gang fights. I have a hard time understanding the attraction of hobbling one's capacitor on a laser boat.
Capital T
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-12-28 07:21:07 UTC
[Harbinger, harbinger pvp fleet armor]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Medium Brief Capacitor Overcharge I, Cap Booster 800
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Prototype ECCM I Radar Sensor Cluster

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


This is a fit I used for fighting with a dedicated tackler or simply, along with ecm drones....
Selinate
#8 - 2011-12-28 07:32:28 UTC
MinorFreak wrote:
so why the MicroWarpDrive? this a null sec requirement? I'm used to low sec and fights where capacitor endurance plays a part in solo or small gang fights. I have a hard time understanding the attraction of hobbling one's capacitor on a laser boat.


I usually use it just to get in range quickly for conflag, and then turn it off. I don't keep it on permanently.
God Forbid
Appetite 4 Destruction
#9 - 2011-12-28 12:12:38 UTC
I would go for something like this.. Shocked

High.

7 Focused Pulse T2 / Congf.
1 Medium Unstable Neut.

Medium.

10MN MWD T2
Medium Electrochemical Cap Booster
Faint Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Propulsion Web

Low.

1 Medium Armor Repair T2
1 EANM T2's
1 IFFA I
1 1600MM Rolled Tungs.
2 Heat sink T2.

Rigs.

1 Ancillary Current
2 Trimark

Drones. 5 Light T2 / 5 Light ECM.
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#10 - 2011-12-28 13:15:22 UTC
I prefer medium focused pulses on the harbinger to heavy pulses. The damage loss is not brutal and you usually make up for the difference and then some with nearly twice the buffer.

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VR Highfive
Hayabusa Logistics.
#11 - 2011-12-28 13:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: VR Highfive
God Forbid wrote:
I would go for something like this.. Shocked

High.

7 Focused Pulse T2 / Congf.
1 Medium Unstable Neut.

Medium.

10MN MWD T2
Medium Electrochemical Cap Booster
Faint Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Propulsion Web

Low.

1 Medium Armor Repair T2
1 EANM T2's
1 IFFA I
1 1600MM Rolled Tungs.
2 Heat sink T2.

Rigs.

1 Ancillary Current
2 Trimark

Drones. 5 Light T2 / 5 Light ECM.


Yup, This one looks good. I use a second EANM instead of the IFFA (what does that stand for anyway?) and a 3rd trimark for extra tank to get 71k EHP . Which is decent.

There are several variations though. Just don't count on it that you can kite people as the Harby is to slow for that also, fitting a AB as mentioned in the thread is not a good idea, you will be a sitting duck.

I recommend watching a few Kil2 vids if you haven't already :P. I think he likes to use 1 with a local rep on it.

Selinate,
I think your first fit has to little tank you will dei to quickly. And with heavy pulses you will have poor tracking so you will be vulnerable to frigate size ships. I recommend using light drones for them instead of medium drones.
The light drones will eat frigs while the mediums will be less effective against them.
Also if you can fit a neut, med or small I would recommend that to. With a cap booster fitted they can be very handy to break tanks (like a drake to shut down the invuls ) or vs frigs.

I have been playing around with this fit to find a balance between max DPS and a acceptable tank:

[Harbinger, PvP AT MWD Heavy Pulse]
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

Stats with skills at V:
597 DPS (Conflag)
60k EHP

The issue with this setup is cap. Managing that can become a problem quickly once you are neuted since it has only a small booster. Having a set of standard cristals in the cargohold (most cap efficient cristal) will help.
It is also a very tight fit so I hope you got your fitting skills trained.;)

My 2 cents, enjoy and good luck PvPing.

Learning solo PvP, one explosion at a time.
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-12-28 17:19:29 UTC
Nice 210m EANM on a 30m ship
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#13 - 2011-12-28 17:41:47 UTC
Why ever not? It's his money

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Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-28 18:12:27 UTC
If you fly the buffer harby w/ focused pulses please keep in mind....IT'S FREAKING SLOW!

With the MWD on you'll top out around 800-900, and without it you're going to go around 120-150. It corners like a river boat.

That said, it's got a great buffer tank. It gets even better if you invest in a set of Slaves. The Scorch+Web+Neut+Drones makes short work of tackle frigs, and the 20km range of scorch means that you can at least hit stuff if it's kiting you (or leave).

I've considered dropping the neut down to a small to fly with a repper, but tbh that's a bit advanced for my crap real-life piloting skill. It'd probably work ok for soloing, since you could rep up while you're trying to out manuever stuff. I can't imagine doing successful range control w/ a 1600mm Plate and Trimarks.

For a PVP newb like me, the straight buffer is the way to go. Just point the ship in the right direction, turn on the mods, and hope they die before you do.

Nano/Shield Harby is good for kiting, but I'm just not a good enough pilot to fly it yet.

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