EVE General Discussion

They are. I ended up just moving the whole corp instead of one member to save hassle. That's the easy part, one day I might even go there.

I'm one of those people who have been in a NPC corp for 4 years now (okay, one of those was on break, but lets not be picky), but not for the reason that has been "discussed" for the last 25 or so pages.

My plan when I started 4 years ago was rather simple.
Learn to fly a logi or EW ship (I'm almost always playing support or crowd control heavy "classes" in MMOs), find some guys who like to blow other people up, fleet with them/join their corp, blow other people up.

I played for about 3 weeks when I started to look for a player corp.
The first dozen or so tries got declined because I was lacking skillpoints, even by corps that marketed themselves as newbie friendly.
I finally found one that seemed to accept my lack of SP and invited me to their TS2 server for an interview. I had a nice chat with some squeaky voiced guy who sounded half my age, but everything went fine. Then he told me that they're full of people who want to blow stuff up, but are short on pilots willing to fly the things that don't produce huge damage numbers, and that they would be willing to buy me implants if I make getting into a logi my number one priority.
I told him that I wanted to get my hands on an EW or logi anyways and that I already have implants because I bought and sold a PLEX. What I didn't know was that this sentence, when translated from english into EVE~lish, apparently means "I'm a spy please insult my mother". He screamed (or rather squeaked) abuse at me for a few seconds before kicking me from their TS.

Not a good start.

A few more days of looking and I actually found a corp that was willing to invite me after a short chat in ventrillo. I played with them for a bunch of evenings, got to help blow some guys up in low-sec and generally had fun.
Then I had the audacity to not be online for over 30 hours straight. The Drama! (yes, capital D)
The CEO opened a convo and started to ask me (interrogate, really) where I was and what I've been doing, to which I answered that I was spending yesterday morning shopping with my sister, yesterday noon working on stuff in my appartment and the next 12 hours after that at work on a night shift. And I slept long after that because after 11 hours of moving 900kg pallets with an old-fashioned manual pallet hauler I was a little tired.
He told me it might be best to look for another corp since apparantly I can't meet their online requirements.
During the short interview I mentioned that I have an erratic work shedule and might be offline for several days at a time if shifts end up badly planned, and he (yes, the very same guy) told me thats no problem. What.

So now I'm back looking, but apparently having a PC corp with 5 days membership in your history is a very bad sign.

Took me even longer then before to find somebody willing to talk to me, but finally I ended up in another corp, this time a rather small one with 20~ish members. Didn't get to "meet" them ingame the first day, but I was on TS and we had a laugh.
Next day we finally group up and I get promptly blown up by them. "They know what I'm planning and I'm a moron if I think I can fool them" was what they told me on TS. To this day I still have not found out what I've been obviously planning back then.

Of course I left and went back to looking, but having 2 PC corp memberships with less then a week each in under a single month seems to indicate that I'm related to satan, so no one was willing to invite me despite me looking for over a month.

I deleted that alt and created a new one to use as my main, and this one is and always will be [SWA] until the heat death of the universe.
I have good ships and I can blow other people up even while flying solo, I have some contacts that are willing to fly with me if I can be bothered to group up, [SWA] actually has some nice chats sometimes and I'm never pestered by other people who want to interact with me just because I'm in the same corp as them.
And best of all I never have to deal with paranoids and their weird notion of "security requirements".

Maybe a lot of people try and quit Eve because it isn't the game they were expecting it to be. It turned out to be very different from what I was expecting, luckily that ended up being a game that I like. You have to be patient with Eve because there is much player created content. Not all player corps need to scan your retina to make sure you are who you say you are and not a replicant but the ones that do might be trolls or perhaps might have good reasons too.

Maybe not all, but all the ones that looked like they were worth joining wanted minimum 20 mil SP, full API, interview on Teamspeak etc blah blah. Ain't got time fo dat.

Yep, I hear you. Way too many Corp idiots...


i've been in an NPC corp for years. Never leaving....EVER...

this thread began with one question. there was no need for anyone to answer it,,

we all know well why people stay in NPC corps. here's a simple list that everyone could agree on i'm sure.

1: i don't want to play EVE on other peoples schedules.

2: i don't like pvp.

3: i don't like paying taxes to a corp when i'm sure the CEO is getting rich from it.

4: i don't like being told what to do.

4: i want to be a solo pilot.

5: i don't like war decs.

6: being in an NPC corp suits my style of play.

7: i don't want to listen to politics/drama in TS.

8: i've had a bad experience with player corps in the past.

9: a place to hide an alt where you can earn isk in relative peace compared to your main.

10: hey i needs a scout

i'm sure we can all agree that we have no problem with these reasons at all. i know i don't.

the fact that you all have the choice is the trurth of the matter. but keep in mind the choice is limited by the games mechanics.

play as you want because that's the only thing will keep you coming back for more.

this is what makes EVE different to other games, we can be feckers on one toon and a hero on another. or we can just be that nobody, running his ship on a shoe string budget earning just about enough to run the next month of missions.
you can be what you want.

so why is this an issue for some and not for others.

why do players stay in NPC corps?

because they can.

play as you want and feck what others say.

I'm very aware of the data. perhaps CCP need to step their game up on retention,, it's not our issue.
none of us can make people like EVE,, they like it stick around for a while,, get bored of it and leave, some come in and hate it.
CCP has no control over that.
removal of NPC corps would be a mistake and i bet CCP know this.
so yup,,,, erm,,, dude...

not our problem.

people play a game and stick around because they enjoy it and they'll play it how they want or feck off.
you didn't need to explain to me why you're in an NPC corp, that's your own business. you're playing as you want. so should others.

How is it that a sandbox game that has been designed to give players a large amount of freedom to fight over things incompatible with engaging in a war for any reason? CCP has structured the game to encourage conflict but it is a sandbox game where we are left to our own motivations for our actions and if we players want to "invent" a lore reason to say invade Provibloc, or start a space cult and claim highsec, or "burn" a trade hub at a massive financial loss to ourselves, we are not only allowed, but encouraged by the developers.

Players don't need a reason to remain in an NPC corp, although I will maintain that the game should be structured such that choice is not the optimal one from a income earning potential. The game should be designed to actually reward players that join together for a common goal and defending their assets, not punish them as it currently does. And as a benefit more players would be encouraged to find social groups which would likely translate into higher retention rates. But if you "just prefer" to stay in the NPC corp, you should always be allowed, just not rewarded for that choice like you are now.

As for killing a Venture, why is it only that players get all touchy about it when it occurs in highsec? If some band of roaming yahoos popped my Venture while I was mining gas in a wormhole or mining ore in lowsec, people would laugh at me if I came to the forums demanding an accounting of how exactly they profited from destroying my unarmed mining ship. No one would take seriously my claim that they were "griefing me" because they were not miners and didn't profit from it. Yet in highsec, because of the density of players, there is much greater likelihood you are stepping on someone's turf and will catch a wardec or be ganked for taking someone's resources, or just be found by someone who likes watching Ventures explode.

It is not "griefing" to destroy another's resource-gathering ship in a game about blowing up spaceships. Nor is it "griefing" to declare war on another corporation in a game set in a dystopian future where we are all constantly at war with one another.

The question begs the reflection: "Why join player corps?"

1. Griefers who give bad, wrong or biased advises.
2. Lack of a proper social environment.

Rookiecorps should be abolished and turned into general NPC corps
everyone can switch to by choice.