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Petition: Return Static 2/10s

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Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#1 - 2015-05-15 18:25:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
A bad decision was made some time ago, based on unspecified statistics, and some exploitation of site mechanics to turn 2/10s into probeable DED sites instead of static ones that are always visible on the overview.

These static 2/10s were a meeting place for brave frigate pilots to find other brave frigate pilots for battle. Some were there for loots that were worth fighting for and some were there looking for fights. This was low sec frigate pvp outside of FW space. In fact it was a meeting place for cruisers and bcs as well because you could isolate your fights from cyno traps and fleet warpins.

The only observable problem with these sites were exploiters who would hide in the final room and complete them over and over again. This was a mechanic problem that could have been fixed. However CCP decided to go the easy route and make them probeable plexes....meaning casual pvpers will not find them before dedicated plexers do, and frigate and other types of consensual pvp would be dispersed and largely relegated to faction warfare space. Nearly ever other static site (if not all) that litter our overviews remain largely unused because they are not worth fighting in. 2/10s were different. Now we just have worthless static sites. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I have been told by my CSM rep Sugar Kyle that this will never be reversed. I don't care. It was a bad decision. It was an easy solution that ignored the benefits of these static sites. Admit your mistake and fix it.

This is a petition to restore static 2/10s. (with the final room mechanics modified to stop exploiters)

Return the Angel 2/10 to Heild.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2015-05-15 18:35:19 UTC
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Olleybear
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-05-15 18:37:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Olleybear
Titus Veridius wrote:
This was low sec frigate pvp outside of FW space...

The only observable problem with these sites were exploiters who would hide in the final room and complete them over and over again. This was a mechanic problem that could have been fixed.

I have been told by my CSM rep Sugar Kyle that this will never be reversed.

This is a petition to restore static 2/10s. (with the final room mechanics modified to stop exploiters)



Going to have to agree with Titus. Outside of Faction Warfare, I'm not seeing much in the way of frigate pvp. It would be nice to have something elsewhere that draws people into frigate fights other than FW.

As Titus has already pointed out, there were exploits of the static system and we gave some good ideas on what game mechanic changes to fix these exploits in a previous thread quite some time ago.

I'm not posting expecting them to come back, but am posting am my support of bringing them back in case it gets looked at again.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.

Natasha Gardevoir
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#4 - 2015-05-15 18:43:13 UTC
I agree with titus 100%
Nano Sito
#5 - 2015-05-15 19:35:19 UTC
+1. More places to pew pew are always a good idea.