EVE General Discussion

You do realize TiDi is the only reason the fight actually happen instead of the node just shitting itself and giving the second side to join black screens?

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I'm amused that the OP thinks the majority of EVE players would have DX12 capable setups before 2022. Seriously I think something like 30% of EVE players were still using Windows XP a mere couple of years ago.

The fun fact is that they are ususally right about their own field. Dx 12 will be better than Dx 11. The real issue is when will we actually see the improvement it brings.

The POS hardware won't be confused by the Dx 12 optimisation. It will simply not run it because the code path contain command the hardware cannot resolve. Programs can't force hardware to run DX 11 code on a DX 9 graphic card for example. Either the devs also provided a DX 9 code path or you can't run the effect/program at all.

DX 9c was a big deal at some point because games were starting to no longer provide path for anything below so people who had bough high end board from DX 8 generation or DX 9 were getting dropped of support before low grade stuff for newer generation because even tho it could not push the pixels fast enough, it could at least run the code.

They have to re-write the code which mean modifying the client which mean a hammer swing from CCP. If someone does it, I hope we get tears from the resulting bans too feed off.

Ah yes, because the reason the node crashes is because the server has to render the graphics for everyone in the system...

Please do your research before making stupid statements like this. Server side lag has absolutely nothing to do with graphics of any sort.

CCP, please remove TiDi for a few months and let us go back to the lagfest blackscreen battles of old so some people may realize just how good we have it now.



10/10, would full TiDi vs what we used to have even in a 100v100 fight anyday.

Depends on what you mean by "better".

DX12 will make it easier to produce pretty graphics, and will even make some effects possible that were out of reach to do in realtime nowadays.

But, this doesn't mean that anything runs better on OLD hardware. In fact, it might even run worse on old hardware. Because drivers will be forced to emulate some things in software that new graphic cards can do on hardware, thus making some things very inefficient on old hardware.

So yeah, new isn't better for everything. If you get a new graphics card after DX12 comes out, it will be better. And if the application you are running takes advantage of it, it will be even better. But if you do neither, you'll likely end up with worse performance, or equal.

On a tangent: Software and hardware are very interchangeable.
Hardware is much faster and can be more costly to produce / design.
Software is more adaptable.
It is possible to use a plug from a mother board directly to a screen and have a purely software "graphics" card, for example.

In an ideal word, pretty much every thing is hardware with only a minimal driver telling the card what to do. The more bloated Direct X becomes, the more useless.