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I just went for a roam in Black Rise - screw links and screw farmers
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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#61 - 2015-05-08 14:57:13 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.

Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).

We need more conflict drivers.

Yes, I agree with this.

Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#62 - 2015-05-08 15:01:40 UTC
Entosis link is just a bad idea. Current FW mechanics for taking systems are far better than either of the 0.0 sovereignty iterations.
ALUCARD 1208
Digital Ghosts
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#63 - 2015-05-09 00:52:31 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.

Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).

We need more conflict drivers.

Yes, I agree with this.

Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer.


If you want to control FW plexes join FW simple

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Szerdzso Boloskarl
Doomheim
#64 - 2015-05-09 02:37:32 UTC
Go to nullsec if you want to fight, Question
or hunt them down in fw. Question


What?
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#65 - 2015-05-09 03:25:20 UTC
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
Zappity wrote:
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.

Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).

We need more conflict drivers.

Yes, I agree with this.

Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer.


If you want to control FW plexes join FW simple

I don't want to control FW plexes. I want to punish stabbed farmers.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#66 - 2015-05-09 03:25:55 UTC
Szerdzso Boloskarl wrote:
Go to nullsec if you want to fight, Question

Wat

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13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2015-05-11 12:46:23 UTC
Welcome to eve PVP, where 10 minutes is spent trying to find a fight only to be blobbed or linked to death. Station hugging, gate hopping, cloak afks, how are you going to fix the game's inherent design?

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2015-05-11 12:57:34 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.

I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.

I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really?


Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want HonorWarsOnline, why are you playing EvE? Maybe its an issue of bad game balance instead? That you cant ship in a setup, and find ways to take advantages that get you a win vs someone else with another setup? You're saying EvE is rock, paper, scissors, but believing the problem is people who choose to play to increase their odds of killing you instead of "fighting fair"? And the problem is those people, not the system?

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2015-05-11 13:56:15 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.

Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).

We need more conflict drivers.


then tell CCP to stop buffing the active tank of FW rats to absurd proportions. A newbie kestrel cant kill a small.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Therran Promitz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#70 - 2015-05-11 16:00:41 UTC
Don'tt bother chasing after ships known to be farmer fit, cuz they mostl likely are.

Best way to get clean fights and avoid all the scrubby "skilled" PvP is to sit in a plex and let the fights come to you
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#71 - 2015-05-11 17:15:38 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.

Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).

We need more conflict drivers.


then tell CCP to stop buffing the active tank of FW rats to absurd proportions. A newbie kestrel cant kill a small.


TLDR: No

.....Newbie kite (low dps) kestrels and other assorted low dps are for novices not smalls. You want to use these ships in larger sizes bring friends.

When and only after they remove the bonus's (or at least reduce them to sensible values) from high tier levels would I then agree to a review of active tank capabilities of NPC's in FW complexes. Frankly, high tiers should give discounts or bonuses that are not directly linked to LP rewards or the LP store.

There is plenty that can be done to improve upon the current flip-flop status quo without removing reason and ambition for taking systems.

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#72 - 2015-05-11 17:47:53 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:

There is plenty that can be done to improve upon the current flip-flop status quo without removing reason and ambition for taking systems.


Much of it has already been done. The pendulum generally swings much slower now.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2015-05-11 18:28:55 UTC
Zappity wrote:
I want to punish stabbed farmers.
Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training.

Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#74 - 2015-05-11 19:00:24 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Zappity wrote:
I want to punish stabbed farmers.
Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training.

Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).


I usually welcome people to plex together with me. Then again, I don't fit stabs either so...
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2015-05-11 19:04:45 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Zappity wrote:
I want to punish stabbed farmers.
Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training.

Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).


I usually welcome people to plex together with me. Then again, I don't fit stabs either so...
Indeed, scientific research clearly proved a high correlation between fitting warp corp stabs and being a ****.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#76 - 2015-05-11 21:57:23 UTC
FW. Broken since they introduced being able to earn stupid amounts of LP for flying in circles around a button in a stabbed ship.

Nothing will actually fix the problem unless CCP significantly reduce the LP payout for completing plexes. Only then will you lose the farmers.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2015-05-11 22:00:09 UTC
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
FW. Broken since they introduced being able to earn stupid amounts of LP for flying in circles around a button in a stabbed ship.

Nothing will actually fix the problem unless CCP significantly reduce the LP payout for completing plexes. Only then will you lose the farmers.
I like farmers. They're teaching me russian in local while we play hide & seek.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#78 - 2015-05-12 01:57:09 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Zappity wrote:
I want to punish stabbed farmers.
Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training.

Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).

Brb, um, busy with something...

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#79 - 2015-05-12 02:53:31 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Indeed, scientific research clearly proved a high correlation between fitting warp corp stabs and being a ****.


You learn something every day.

I didn't know there had been scientific research done on Crosi.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#80 - 2015-05-12 04:53:05 UTC
Since i have ibanez posts hidden. can someone tell me if it mentions me like all his others do?