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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#481 - 2015-05-10 20:25:55 UTC
Mantas Amatin wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Mantas Amatin wrote:
Can you do only burner missions without normal ones(declining them)?

You can decline any mission but you get standing loss for declining regular missions.


Can you keep doing only burner ones or you have to do some normal ones too to keep ur standings up?

Missions are given randomly from pool. Once in Sisi i've tried to do this way (running only burner missions and decline all other). Lost contact with 2 agents. Haven't tried it in Tranq Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jori McKie
Know your Role
Pandemic Horde
#482 - 2015-05-11 10:11:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jori McKie
Mantas Amatin wrote:
Can you do only burner missions without normal ones(declining them)?

Don't know yet, it depends if the new CR/BC missions are in pool with the other Burner missions or are in a new pool. The later one should make it possible to run only Burner missions.

Important:
Patch Carnyx: Frequency of Burner Missions offered by level 4 Security agents has been lowered.

So all numbers in the following links are soon outdated and to high.
For more details start reading here to the last post.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5583928#post5583928
or jump to
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5584775#post5584775
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5585127#post5585127
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5585841#post5585841

Those 4 links are essential a guide how to blitz LvL 4 with Burner missions and make ridiculous amounts of LP and ISK

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

Jack Jr Talvanen
Omega Bureau
#483 - 2015-05-11 13:51:45 UTC
So there is any chance to kill burner worm using this garmur fit:

High:
3x LML II

Mids:
1x SCB II
1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
1x Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
1x Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambler

Lows:
1x CNBC
1x OIS II
1x Halcyon

Rigs:
Small Ionic Field Projector II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Small Rigor Catalyst II

My Max speed without overload warpdrive is 4318,02 and turned off after scramed Worm my top Speed is 612,3, my DPS is a bit low only 156 using T2 missiles

Thx in advance !!
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#484 - 2015-05-11 13:57:55 UTC
Jack Jr Talvanen wrote:
So there is any chance to kill burner worm using this garmur fit:
...
My Max speed without overload warpdrive is 4318,02 and turned off after scramed Worm my top Speed is 612,3, my DPS is a bit low only 156 using T2 missiles

Thx in advance !!

I think when you get into scram you will die.
And when you kite it you won't break his tank. I used FedComet to do it and i had like 300DPS (can be wrong here) and it wasn't fast job to finish him.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jack Jr Talvanen
Omega Bureau
#485 - 2015-05-11 14:06:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Jr Talvanen
Quote:
...
I used FedComet to do it and i had like 300DPS (can be wrong here) and it wasn't fast job to finish him.


Thanks for your advise !! could you show me your Comet fit?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#486 - 2015-05-11 14:11:00 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
Jack Jr Talvanen wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
[quote=Jack Jr Talvanen]So there is any chance to kill burner worm using this garmur fit:
...
I used FedComet to do it and i had like 300DPS (can be wrong here) and it wasn't fast job to finish him.


Thanks for your advise !! could you show me your Comet fit?

[high]
2x Light Neutron blaster 2

[Med]
1mn Mwd
scram
small capacitor booster

[Low]
2x Armor Kinetic Hardeners
Magnetic field stabilizer
small armor repairer

[Rigs]
Hybrid collision accelerator
Anti-Kinetic Pump
Auxiliary nano pump

[Drones]
3x Acolyte T1
3x Acolyte T2

Using t1 drones to initially give Worm something to shoot at, then switch them to T2.
In my fit modules and rigs are pimped a little (T2 variant works well but i like safety so i used a bit of faction/deadspace)

PS: need to say that i lost this ship/fit attacking Worm in system with Incursion. So even pimped a little it has too low safety-bag for such cases.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#487 - 2015-05-11 19:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
agree to march rabbit with the garmur.

alternative you can try

[Enyo, guriburner worm aktuell]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

Warrior I x1

414 dps all V, dont worry about only 465 buffershieldtank. with 90% on kinetic you get 222 dmg every 10 secs. ~ 150 mill
Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
#488 - 2015-05-15 18:45:40 UTC
If memory serves, a Wolf is the best ship to use against the Cruor burner.
keepe
First Legion
#489 - 2015-05-15 20:35:05 UTC
Angel burner cruiser with vigilant 4 min 11

5x Heavy Neutron Blaster II (calda nav antimater)

3x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Capacitor Booster II

Dark Blood Armor EM Hardener
Dark Blood Armor Explosive Hardener
2x Dark Blood Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

2x Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

5 vespa t2

537.6 + 148.5 with out overload

Possible in t2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nmSUMGaySc
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#490 - 2015-05-19 06:10:13 UTC
shadow serp remote tracking comp, and shadow serp MFS, from the first burner talos I kill. I like these missions Pirate

I completely forgot to loot that wreck good thing I bookmarked it, turned the mission in, and warped back to loot Lol


oh and a 30d proph blood raider skin too almost turned it down since i have a few to drink too... Now I'm just waiting to dock up before I hit post \o/ made it

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Artemesia Sidonis
Hibernia Verdspar Werke
#491 - 2015-05-20 14:30:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Artemesia Sidonis
At First thx to Jori, Jachuza and Archetyp66 for very good advises and setups.

Now I m round about half a year in EVE and of course not fitted with much money.

So it would really help, if it possible to make a main post for player like me, with cheaper ship setup.

A fast kill time is not interessting to me, but save and not so expensive ;)!

May it is possible?
Jori McKie
Know your Role
Pandemic Horde
#492 - 2015-05-20 15:36:23 UTC
Artemesia Sidonis wrote:
At First thx to Jori, Jachuza and Archetyp66 for very good advises and setups.

Now I m round about half a year in EVE and of course not fitted with much money.

So it would really help, if it possible to make a main post for player like me, with cheaper ship setup.

A fast kill time is not interessting to me, but save and not so expensive ;)!

May it is possible?


Use the recommended setups and replace any expansive module with a cheap meta 4 or T2 version. Check out alternative setups first they are usually cheaper versions. In some case you will need extra fitting mods for Grid or CPU another option would be CPU or Grid imps. In most case you want more tank, so replace 1x damage mod with an extra specific hardener or EANM.
Exception is the Garmur.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#493 - 2015-05-20 15:57:09 UTC
Artemesia Sidonis wrote:
At First thx to Jori, Jachuza and Archetyp66 for very good advises and setups.

Now I m round about half a year in EVE and of course not fitted with much money.

So it would really help, if it possible to make a main post for player like me, with cheaper ship setup.

A fast kill time is not interessting to me, but save and not so expensive ;)!

May it is possible?

You can make this post. Contact me in game and i provide you with cheap T2/faction fits i use for Burners. I never fly ships above 40-50 million ISK w/ fit. And i have ships for all kinds of Burners except Daredevil (it killed my last Enyo and i'm too lazy to find new fit).

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Pakokkie
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#494 - 2015-05-21 08:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Pakokkie
How to quickly and easely finish the Anomic Base with the 3 long range Talos rats.

[Enyo,]
Capacitor Power Relay II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane (can use a t1 version too)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Warrior I x1

Void S x1920
Nanite Repair Paste x50

When you land in the matrix of guns, fly downwards with mwd on. Keep transversal up, zig and zag to the most left rat and orbit at 1000 meters or whatever your skills give your guns optimal. Remember to turn of your mwd when u are around 15 km in aproach towards a rat.... Then fly around the matrix of turrets to the next, rinse and repeat. Its way too easy...... If you fly properly you don't need the true sancha module and you can change it for a T1.

This fit is not cap stable and it does not need to be. Repping is only needed if you do something wrong with flying. You can always use the drone to get the fire drawn away from your ship. The rats realy hate drones, realy cheap decoys.

If for some odd reason you come too close to the guns, do not warp out. At close range you can take them out easy. When you warp out and warp back in at long range, they are doing nasty damage.

Remember: transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal,
did I say transversal?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#495 - 2015-05-21 11:17:19 UTC
Pakokkie wrote:
How to quickly and easely finish the Anomic Base with the 3 long range Talos rats.

[Enyo,]...

How long it takes with somehow limited Enyo damage?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jori McKie
Know your Role
Pandemic Horde
#496 - 2015-05-21 13:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jori McKie
Pakokkie wrote:
How to quickly and easely finish the Anomic Base with the 3 long range Talos rats.

[Enyo,]
Capacitor Power Relay II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane (can use a t1 version too)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Warrior I x1

Void S x1920
Nanite Repair Paste x50

When you land in the matrix of guns, fly downwards with mwd on. Keep transversal up, zig and zag to the most left rat and orbit at 1000 meters or whatever your skills give your guns optimal. Remember to turn of your mwd when u are around 15 km in aproach towards a rat.... Then fly around the matrix of turrets to the next, rinse and repeat. Its way too easy...... If you fly properly you don't need the true sancha module and you can change it for a T1.

This fit is not cap stable and it does not need to be. Repping is only needed if you do something wrong with flying. You can always use the drone to get the fire drawn away from your ship. The rats realy hate drones, realy cheap decoys.

If for some odd reason you come too close to the guns, do not warp out. At close range you can take them out easy. When you warp out and warp back in at long range, they are doing nasty damage.

Remember: transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal,
did I say transversal?


I tried this with different AF, T3D. It works most times but it is unreliable because one good volley and a second medicroe afterwards and your are dead because you have no buffer at all.
Most times it happens after you killed one Talos, get out of orbit and align new in this few seconds chances to get hit are very high. You will get volleyed sooner or later.
The worst thing AF and T3D aren't even faster than the Deimos or Vagabond, kill time on successful runs with AF and T3D were more then 8min.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

Artemesia Sidonis
Hibernia Verdspar Werke
#497 - 2015-05-21 14:47:51 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Artemesia Sidonis wrote:
At First thx to Jori, Jachuza and Archetyp66 for very good advises and setups.

Now I m round about half a year in EVE and of course not fitted with much money.

So it would really help, if it possible to make a main post for player like me, with cheaper ship setup.

A fast kill time is not interessting to me, but save and not so expensive ;)!

May it is possible?

You can make this post. Contact me in game and i provide you with cheap T2/faction fits i use for Burners. I never fly ships above 40-50 million ISK w/ fit. And i have ships for all kinds of Burners except Daredevil (it killed my last Enyo and i'm too lazy to find new fit).



Thx you for nice offer, but my english is rather bad, because its not my native language!

One last question, some of you guys make 8 burner in an hour. It would be interessting to know, how you ll manage this in that short time. lvl 4 Agents are usuallys not in every starsystem and dont offer just burner missions in that time.

Sorry guys for my english.... ;)!
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#498 - 2015-05-21 21:27:52 UTC
Artemesia Sidonis wrote:



Thx you for nice offer, but my english is rather bad, because its not my native language!

One last question, some of you guys make 8 burner in an hour. It would be interessting to know, how you ll manage this in that short time. lvl 4 Agents are usuallys not in every starsystem and dont offer just burner missions in that time.

Sorry guys for my english.... ;)!


multiple agents from diff. corps in ~ 6 jumps. got this in twice directions and a 3 rd if a agent gave me a mission in these direction.
Pakokkie
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#499 - 2015-05-22 08:54:47 UTC
Jori McKie wrote:
Pakokkie wrote:
How to quickly and easely finish the Anomic Base with the 3 long range Talos rats.

[Enyo,]
Capacitor Power Relay II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane (can use a t1 version too)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Warrior I x1

Void S x1920
Nanite Repair Paste x50

When you land in the matrix of guns, fly downwards with mwd on. Keep transversal up, zig and zag to the most left rat and orbit at 1000 meters or whatever your skills give your guns optimal. Remember to turn of your mwd when u are around 15 km in aproach towards a rat.... Then fly around the matrix of turrets to the next, rinse and repeat. Its way too easy...... If you fly properly you don't need the true sancha module and you can change it for a T1.

This fit is not cap stable and it does not need to be. Repping is only needed if you do something wrong with flying. You can always use the drone to get the fire drawn away from your ship. The rats realy hate drones, realy cheap decoys.

If for some odd reason you come too close to the guns, do not warp out. At close range you can take them out easy. When you warp out and warp back in at long range, they are doing nasty damage.

Remember: transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal, transversal,
did I say transversal?


I tried this with different AF, T3D. It works most times but it is unreliable because one good volley and a second medicroe afterwards and your are dead because you have no buffer at all.
Most times it happens after you killed one Talos, get out of orbit and align new in this few seconds chances to get hit are very high. You will get volleyed sooner or later.
The worst thing AF and T3D aren't even faster than the Deimos or Vagabond, kill time on successful runs with AF and T3D were more then 8min.



Did I say transversal? I used this method 5 times now and it always works for me. Just make sure you keep transversal up and a drone out once you start engagement.
Jori McKie
Know your Role
Pandemic Horde
#500 - 2015-05-22 11:56:29 UTC
Pakokkie wrote:



Did I say transversal? I used this method 5 times now and it always works for me. Just make sure you keep transversal up and a drone out once you start engagement.


The Drone out might prevent you form getting hit but in the end it doesn't matter. The time to kill is about 2mins worse than the Deimos or Vagabond because the speed isn't much higher and the DPS is way lower. All in all you get a worse setup with a high risk of losing your ship.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar