Intergalactic Summit

Exaclty.

I´m impressed that even with all the cyberimplants and knowledge imediatelly available, our kind are stiil impressionable like a regular citizen.

There is an agenda operating here, until we have proper information, we´re only pawns for secret kings and queens.

All with the illusion of free will.

I did. I'm very excited at the prospect. I'll reply with my stats when I get a chance!

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if the Sisters could. They seem to always be one step ahead of the rest of us.

Lady, dude.

NOT HELPING. Now is not the time for our petty squabbles, when we're facing down the barrel of the biggest doomsday ever built. Yes, Kim. We know you have a hate-on for the Gallente. Please stop shouting it for a few days and focus on the enemy that wants to kill ALL OF US. Maxi-whatever your name is, stop provoking other people. Third person.... less of that.

I will not be threatened with "justice" because of the empire I was born into, especially not by someone who looks no older than 14. You brought your unwarranted aggression and anger into this discussion about something completely unrelated to Gallente-Caldari relations. I repeat my previous statement, that their are pressing issues at hand than your petty hatred.

Agreed.

Oh, who would ask about being ignored by not a wide-known honorless coward and liar like Makoto.
Unlike you, coward, I am ready to answer for any of my words and stand for them and for the State with weapons in my hands, disregarding my own life.

While you didn't had courage just to meet a single woman, whom you was lying about.
You are a disgrace, Makoto. Shame on you.

http://i.imgur.com/ytxYA8k.jpg

Drifters have been busy, Dr. Hilen Tukoss was clearly seen in a Buzzard and my locater agent said he was "well out of my zone of influence". Meaning what we saw could definitely be a staging site / system for the Drifters and the structure is possibly a Station.

On May 8th 19.00 eve time I checked the Eram system (Arek'Jaalan site) and Elgoi system (Eifyr and Co. HQ),
with no results on the overview, d-scan, combat probes or local about any Drifters.

Stay Vigilant !

PS: In a fight try to use EM damage as your primary, Drifters have poor resistance against them
they would no doubt have improved their Sensor Strenght after my last encounter with them, use ECM on your own risk.

source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/capsuleer-fleet-engages-new-drifter-threat/

I can understand that line of reasoning, Capsuleers are unpredictable at best. I do however disagree with the notion that the Drifters have yet to prove themselves hostile.

If i walked on to your ship, raided your quarters for information and scanned all your equipment, electronic files and crew members all while refusing to communication to you my intentions, i am most assured you would consider me hostile.

If you then find me amassing a fleet of ships after i have just shown myself to be analyzing your defenses, and still consider me not hostile you become easy prey.

We have two options
1. We can either sit in ignorance and pretend this isn't happening. The end result here is that we will be easily and quickly overwhelmed.
or
2. We can prepare the populace for a possible incursion from the Drifters, some Capsuleers may go and antagonize them but we will stand a far greater chance of survival in the long term.

IF the Drifters had attempted communication with us, your points would be valid. As they have not, it is unreasonable to assume that it is our fault for 'causing tensions'.

You see, the problem is that it is gallenteans and sansha are ones who want to kill us all, and who were actually doing this during last years. While since appearing of the Drifters they were taking defensive stance.

The only offensive actions Drifters have taken are against these self-proclaimed "scientists", who were poking them with sticks.

You refer to the scanning actions made by Seekers and Drifters. Your interpretation is that of an invasion of privacy and personal boundaries, yet there are a number of facts you should consider beforehand.

1. Drifter technological superiority is undeniable. Examples of such include the fitting of doomsday weapons on their battleships, the artificial generation of wormholes, sophisticated armor and electronic systems that resist scanning attempts and all known damage profiles, and layered shielding and electronic warfare packaging.

2. Given all of the above facts, if the Drifter's original intention was military conquest against the Empires, they would already have done so with overwhelming force. With their uninhibited access to Anoikis and superior weaponry alone, they could have struck the logistical centers and strategic locations of all Empire space simultaneously.

3. Given statements 1 and 2, the fact that they have yet to destroy Empire assets and only destroy capsuleer assets when aggressed points to an objective tangential to interpretations of war. Moreover, while they have shown military posturing maneuvers, it has only been against the Amarr empire. Even in these shows of implied force, they have not destroyed Amarr assets unprovoked.

4. Many cite that the Drifter's lack of response to our communication attempts is somehow associated with clear acts of aggression. I would instead consider a difference in cultural paradigms. It is clear that the Drifters are technologically advanced, far beyond any level capsuleers and the 4 primary Empires have managed to achieve. This level of advancement implies a radically altered developmental circumstance. It is highly likely that such a divergent path would result in different communication methods and interpretations of communication.


When Achura was first discovered by Suukuveesta, the delegates that met with the ruling were unfamiliar with our customs. Many offers of hospitality by both sides were outright rejected as offense and a blatant disregard for what were thought to be self-evident rules of acceptable behavior.

When an Amarrian first encountered another who did not share his faith, such thoughts were inconceivable, heretical even. Every encounter with a culture we do not understand is intertwined with assumptions of how one's way is superior to the other.


However, do not mistake my considerations here as a belief that Drifters are in fact benevolent or have intentions that will benefit the Empires. Consider the farmer who cultivates his crops and reigns over his field (I do not know how many capsuleers know of the old traditions, but Achura still has such farmers). He has seen them grow and harvests them at his leisure. The insects and animals that cross his fields or dwell within them are paid little mind, until they begin to harm his crops or his land. Then they are removed and stamped out with great vigilance until his land is safe once more. On his walks through his fields, so long as they leave him and his crops be, he will note their presence and nothing more. The farmer's works come first, and the benefits and safety the insects and animals find are secondary as a result.