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Highsec manufacturing gone? need alil update here

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Broegger
Aideron Technologies
#1 - 2015-05-06 12:47:12 UTC
Hey guys

Just came back into eve after a long break, only to find that so many things has changed.

I used to be a manufacturer in highsec, im not a trillionaire or anything, but i enjoyed it quite abit regardless.

However i login and update my spreadsheets with all the new blueprint changes.
Only to find that people are selling the items at waaaay lower prices, than i can actually produce them in highsec.

Im not using a POS.


So, what am i going to do now ??
do i have to travel all the way to nullsec to do some decent margins or?

im abit at a loss here.

Hope you guys can help me out :)
erg cz
ErgoDron
#2 - 2015-05-06 13:00:21 UTC
Too many players concider your AFK mined minerals "free" :( And CCP changed blueprints not long ago, so they consume more zydrine now. Who have had produced masses of stuff before change can still sell for lower prices.

Use this to find out, where installation costs are lower.
Confront your spreadsheets with this
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#3 - 2015-05-06 13:09:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Reasonable margins are still obtainable on many items but you need to be on the ball with your overheads as well as where and what you market.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
#4 - 2015-05-06 16:53:02 UTC
Yeah, right now everything's a bit all over the place, as they've just changed blueprint requirements and the mineral balance across null. It will all start to settle down though, and in the meantime there's plenty of profit to be made, you just need to look about a bit. Looking for stations with lower manufacturing indices, researching your BPOs and producing in bulk are generally good all round strategies to keep in mind too.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2015-05-06 17:19:10 UTC
Still building stuff. Still making a profit.

I have switched items from my old favourites, but it wasn't hard to pick something new.

There are a lot of items in EVE.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2015-05-08 00:13:28 UTC
The limiting factor on production used to be player click tolerance. ~20 clicks to invent and build 10 T2 Magstabs, etc.

Now, that's largely gone so manufacturing is limited by the (much less constraining) factor of available capital and production/science line hours.

There is still profit to be made, but I make more from trading and less from producing now despite having more capital tied up in production (e.g. I tend to have enough materials on hand to build 500-1000 Neutron Blaster Cannon IIs at any given time, whereas I used to only keep enough materials for a few hundred magstabs)

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Shakuul
Infinitus Sapientia
#7 - 2015-05-08 05:38:03 UTC
Manufacturing is much worse since they removed 100% reprocess. Before, anyone selling at 5-10% below mineral costs would have their inventory purchased and reprocessed as a cheap source of minerals. This floor no longer exists as maximum reprocessing yields are below 60%.

When they made the megacyte/zydrine changes, people stockpiled items at 10-30% below today's mineral costs, so they are happy to sell 5% below current cost and still make a profit.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#8 - 2015-05-08 12:24:20 UTC
Broegger wrote:
Hey guys

Just came back into eve after a long break, only to find that so many things has changed.

I used to be a manufacturer in highsec, im not a trillionaire or anything, but i enjoyed it quite abit regardless.

However i login and update my spreadsheets with all the new blueprint changes.
Only to find that people are selling the items at waaaay lower prices, than i can actually produce them in highsec.

Im not using a POS.


So, what am i going to do now ??
do i have to travel all the way to nullsec to do some decent margins or?

im abit at a loss here.

Hope you guys can help me out :)



It also depends on /where/ you make stuff.

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CJ Alland
CB Trading
#9 - 2015-05-10 14:38:35 UTC
Some points that might be of interest to you.

* Pick a market to specialise for.
E.G. Cruisers, repair modules, etc

* Optimise your supply lines.
This is your biggest enemy, supply can make or break you. It will determine how competitive you can be in production. You should spend a majority of your time sorting this out.

* Learn the market.
Spend time to understand the market you have chosen, learn what the market graphs so about the directions items are going.

* Sell your ships the the correct value
This is also important, too many people just build what IPH says and then drop them at the current lowest value.
You need to use your knowledge of your market to determine a good price and leave it at that. The market will rebound.

* Finally spreadsheets
Spreadsheets will help keep you organised and productive.