Ships & Modules

Why no love for our logistics?

Over the last couple of years CCP has developed some fine Logistics ships. The Navitas, the Inquisitor, the Burst, the Bantam all originally small mining frigates changed into logistics ships with good bonus for remote armor repairing and remote shield repairing. The same can be said for our cruiser level logi’s. These would be our Augoror, Exequror, Scythe and Osprey . The difference here is that CCP gave the cruiser level logistic ships a T2 Variant. . I feel like CCP miss something here, they did right by making frigate class logistics ships, but failed to give them a T2 Variant. Making a T2 variant of the Frigate class logistics class gates would be very simple to create and they would complement your new addition of T3 Destroyers. I also think the T3 destroyers were a little too early to release when you have no real logistics for the T3 Destroyers. Maybe the focus should have been on a T2 variant of the frigate class logistics? Eve is going into a new SOV mechanic that will rely on small gang activity more often than the past and this would have been a fantastic addition.

As the years passed us by CCP introduce the first battleship class logistic ship called the Nestor. Prior to this, there were no battleship class logistic ships. The problem here is that they only made the Nestor an armor type of logistics ship. Do not get me wrong the ability the nestor brings, matches the reason why it is a faction type battleship and in a class of its own because of the refitting service it has. But unfortunately there has not been a lot of use this ability yet because of the price tag it brings. So why not start with T1 class battleship logistics ship with capabilities of slight increase range of large armor repairing and slight increase of large armor repairer amount. Forcing the use of large armor repairers on a battleship class logistics ship. Right now you can fit dead space medium type armor repairers on a Nestor and get matching range to a large armor repairer and armor repair amount. Seem the whole logistics battleship class was abandoned and went right for the Faction Logistics battleship.

So what do you think People of New Eden, do we want to see T2 Frigate Logistics and T1 Battleship Logistics for shield and armor?

Love to get everyone’s feedback.

How about frigates, what's your point of view on a T2 class frigate logi?
Also what's your thoughts on the Nestor?

Domi ws and is the solid choice for RR role and used a lot by during small scale engagements. It's good almost in everything except armor repair and range bonus.

They are almost needed to take advantage of the stupid frigate holes littering wormhole space these days. at the moment it's a case of 'oh look a frigate hole with X fleet through it... never mind can't engage because no logistics can get through'

outside of that i tend to agree we don't need more smaller ships introducing T2 Logi frigates is pretty much the last nail in the coffin for larger hull ships.

Does this game really need more t2 frigates?

Logis need nerfs, they are almost as bad as recons/eafs and t1 ewar frigates/cruiser for this game.

Just for clarity; The Inquisitor was not a mining frigate, it was the second of the tier 3 combat frigates for the Amarr line and importantly the Amarr missile frig. The Tormentor was the mining frigate and instead of becoming the frig logistics became a solid fighting ship...

That causes a bit of a problem. T2 Logi frigates would mean that the Inquisitor would invent to the Purifier Stealth Bomber and the T2 Logistics and the Tormentor would be the only (non-faction) frigate without a T2 variation.

Is there realy an area where one would need T2 Logistics?

In Small Scale Frigsized PvP a T1 Logistic Frigate should be more than enough to repair any damage, in Larg scale Frig sized PvP a T2 Logistic Frigate would not be able to do its job because of her fleetmates getting instapopped due to low HP.

Creating HP out of "nothing" isn't resolved by nerfing the amount of it created. That claim doesn't even make sense. Further the solution to that nerf is the same as always, larger fleets with more reps for the same effect.

Your second change isn't even worthy of being called a complete idea.

I don't know about pvp but for pve the T1 frigs are doing great. Getting a T2 version would be nice, I could use them in c4 anoms.