Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Then you will be met with a resounding NO from pretty much everyone on this idea. Gatecamps are here to stay like it or not, the fact that you are here signifies that they have created interesting gameplay for you and rather than figure out how to handle them or ask for help on handling them you question if they should exist.

The only thing they could change here without completely breaking the (eco-)system, is to increase the random distance that you appear in relation to the stargate.

I've given you weapon. Now you fight forum PvP battle. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

Gatecamps are fine as it is. I've lived in lowsec for 2+ years now exclusively as a full pirate (engageable by anyone on gate) and I roam almost everyday in mostly frigates + cruisers with no scout and have never found gatecamps to be a huge concern. Yes I die to them occasionally but TBH it's really not that common because gatecamps are a huge invitation for anyone to form up and break them up so alot of entities won't do it and the ones that do will usually run at the sight of anything remotely resembling a fight.

I'm also a low-sec dweller. Been living there for 4+ years.


If you are complaining about how there is no way to directly fight against an organized gatecamp without putting in the same amount of time, effort, and/or manpower that the gatecampers do... well... what do you expect?
The game is not going to hold your hand against other players who have learned to take advantage of intentional chokepoints.

If you are complaining about how you can't fly the ship you want, the way you want, to, whenever you want to... tough. You adapt to the situation in the game. Not ask the game to change the situation for you.


Moreover, there are many ways and tools to get past gatecamps.
You say none of them worked... well... they work for me. They work for my corporation. They have worked for some of the people I have helped and trained.
Methinks you just need more practice. And to not take the shortest route to your destination.

Use a scout. I myself don't play with 2 accounts on principle (I know 90% of EVE has at least 2), so I cannot move any valuable ship without help. That's why we are encouraged to form corporations. For less valuable ships I can take a risk and use the map and intel channel to move them myself.

If you are in a fleet - get someone to scout ahead, in an interceptor. Ares with less than 2 sec align time and 2 warp core stabs is almost invulnerable. Except smart bombs nothing can catch it.

I was also annoyed by gate camps, and the impossibility of doing anything alone (anyone with 2 accounts is invulnerable to gate camps). But that's the game. I don't know why CCP does not allow us to play with one account, with 2 paid characters, and 2 open screens. Many people including myself would use that feature.

Is it really interesting game play to jump into a gate camp and die? Maybe "you" think it is but that does not mean that it is true for all people. And the fact of posting here about s situation in game surely does not mean that the OP finds it interesting when there are at least a dozen or more other reasons they may choose to ppost about it.

I am fine with the gate camp situation as it currently is in the game but that does not mean that it is "interesting" game play for everyone that is involved in them by choice or by chance. My son is part of a low sec corp / alliance and even they hate gate camps often spending hours sitting at a gate waiting for something that usually never happens. Sounds absolutely thrilling to me, and people complain about the boredom of running missions. To each their own I guess.

Here's an interesting thought for you to chew on;

In a conflict-centric game like EVE... can you make ANY mechanic or gameplay that won't, at best, annoy or, at worst, cause people to gnash their teeth over?

Examples; you are mining in an asteroid belt. Alone. Then a small gang of barges warp in on top of you with an Orca and freighter for support. They consume the entire belt that you have been working on for the last hour before you finish your fourth cycle and then move on.
You go to another belt to find that they have already hit it. There is nothing left.
You move a few systems over and you see the same thing happening.
This is not interesting gameplay for the solo player. In fact, it is VERY frustrating for the solo player. That solo player just can't compete in the area of expertiese that he/she likes.

Now , the game CAN be modified so that there is always ore for everyone to mine... but this reduces scarcity and results in an increase in ore supply on the market... resulting in lower prices and thus lower profit for the solo miner (but not forthe groups who make their margins on bulk orders).
You can artifically restrict fleets from doing this... but now you are penalizing social gameplay and teamwork.


The point I am trying to make here is that in a competitive environment... one person's "bad gameplay" is another person's "content."
There is no two ways about it.

How would removing or modifying them, create more interactive game play?

Gate camps have been around almost from day one, but with slight variations. At one time you would all spawn at a set location in space in the system, which tended to be camped also.

The ting is camps are so easily avoidable and tend to be risky to partake in, that balance and interaction is already a big part of their existence. Leaving me wondering, what your point actually is?

Oh and reported for cross posting.

You came to the agenda-driven subsection of the forums, m8.
Features and Ideas is mostly about wanting to change things, or yell at people wanting to change the wrong thing and with that they will DETROY EBE OMGWTFLGBTBBQ OH NOES.

If you want a discussion and opinions of the populace at large, you might try GD or Assembly if you wanted, specifically a CSM response.

As this is neither a proposal for a new feature or a new idea, this thread gets a lock.

Besides that, you already have an open thread on the same topic.

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