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Remove Bounty Ticks.
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Geralt Kleiner
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-05-03 18:11:18 UTC
So i've been ratting as my main source of income for some time now, and one thing that bothered me from the first time i started killing NPC Pirates to now is the way the bounty money gets into my wallet, those always changing 20 minute ticks of bounty collection made the whole deal feel like a never ending chore, always wanting to complete the remaining of a tick, but never wanting to leave a anom half-finished.

So i wanted to suggest a new to for capsuleers to collect their bounty, instead of the money simply appearing into your wallet every 20 minutes, it would accumulate and you could withdraw everything at once at the nearest station's Bounty Office.

That would add some ultility for the Bounty Office, and there you could check your total bounty accumulated and withdraw the bounty directly to your wallet.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2015-05-03 18:25:30 UTC
No!

The NPC bounty used to be paid out immediately once upon a time but it made our hamsters very sad and slow, so the Joveans thought a 20 minute pull would make the hamsters much happier and they were right.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-05-03 18:35:32 UTC
And if you're not actually living in a place with much in the way of access to a station, you should...?
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2015-05-03 18:47:34 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
And if you're not actually living in a place with much in the way of access to a station, you should...?

... Sleepers don't have Bounty, Mission runners always go back to a station, Sov Null ratters have always a station close-by that is blue, Ninja ratters simply go to back to their base, which is always a station, and withdraw the money, or they nomad around and withdraw the money once in a while when they feel like docking.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2015-05-03 19:52:35 UTC
Or we could just keep with 20 minute ticks?
They work, and this doesn't seem like anything but an OCD change.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#6 - 2015-05-03 20:13:29 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or we could just keep with 20 minute ticks?
They work, and this doesn't seem like anything but an OCD change.

Or go to other ticks at X interval which sounds like something that could be ctl-f replace if the bounty system is a seperate module of code. CONCORD updating their system to make it 15m intervals would help my CDO.

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-05-03 20:19:23 UTC
Geralt Kleiner wrote:
So i've been ratting as my main source of income for some time now, and one thing that bothered me from the first time i started killing NPC Pirates to now is the way the bounty money gets into my wallet, those always changing 20 minute ticks of bounty collection made the whole deal feel like a never ending chore, always wanting to complete the remaining of a tick, but never wanting to leave a anom half-finished.

So i wanted to suggest a new to for capsuleers to collect their bounty, instead of the money simply appearing into your wallet every 20 minutes, it would accumulate and you could withdraw everything at once at the nearest station's Bounty Office.

That would add some ultility for the Bounty Office, and there you could check your total bounty accumulated and withdraw the bounty directly to your wallet.



The whole post is a mixed up bag of crazy.

There is no such thing as "completing a tick".

Also, you're making the "chore" and EVEN BIGGER one.

And to what point or purpose?

Why the hell would we turn bounties into half arsed loyalty points?
Geralt Kleiner
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-05-03 20:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Geralt Kleiner
Quote:
The whole post is a mixed up bag of crazy.

There is no such thing as "completing a tick".

Also, you're making the "chore" and EVEN BIGGER one.

And to what point or purpose?

Why the hell would we turn bounties into half arsed loyalty points?



By completing a tick i mean when finish a anom 10 minutes before the tick, and i want to rat a bit more just to fill the remaining 10 minutes and get a complete tick.

And i don't see how this would turn it into loyalty points.
Iain Cariaba
#9 - 2015-05-03 20:41:15 UTC
Geralt Kleiner wrote:
afkalt wrote:
The whole post is a mixed up bag of crazy.

There is no such thing as "completing a tick".

Also, you're making the "chore" and EVEN BIGGER one.

And to what point or purpose?

Why the hell would we turn bounties into half arsed loyalty points?



By completing a tick i mean when finish a anom 10 minutes before the tick, and i want to rat a bit more just to fill the remaining 10 minutes and get a complete tick.

And i don't see how this would turn it into loyalty points.

The only thing making you try to rat for a whole tick is your own mental issues. There is no reason to try and finish ratting out the tick.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#10 - 2015-05-03 21:06:11 UTC
I'd much rather they auto-paid me every 20 minutes than have to dock and press a station button. I'd even be happy if they delayed it further to every half hour, an hour, two, who cares. But having to press a button to redeem them is a dull and pointless feature unless there is somehow a way to steal my bounties before i redeem them. Then we're talking.

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shimiku
Zircron Industries
#11 - 2015-05-03 21:43:39 UTC
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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-05-03 22:08:25 UTC
You can just rat till you don't want to anymore and completely ignore the ticks. Don't like the living by the clock as it were....then don't basically.

That final tick goes off even if you log off before it happens...the money is there next log in.

Remember eve is a game, not a job. You don't have a boss over your shoulder getting their money's worth up until Close of business. Hell if lucky in real life you don't even get this issue. If the next item on my plate is a massive change to server(s) and its 10 minutes to quitting time....that stuff waits till tomorrow and I chill the 10. It be the small issue of the small chance the server(s) may not agree to the change so best to make it start of a new day where you are there to monitor and troubleshoot if need be the whole day.


Well that and what about WH's and explorers? They may not station up often. I know some explorers who'd go out for days. 1 combat ship 1 cloaky transport combo. As the transport resupplied ammo/other charges....it made the space to store stuff from the sites. Basically they left undocked to cover an extended trip and didn't come back till hauler filled.
Cade Windstalker
#13 - 2015-05-03 22:32:14 UTC
The payment ticks from ratting are simply a resource saving trick. Instead of the server updating your wallet every time you kill something it updates it at intervals from working memory.

There is literally no benefit to "completing" a wallet tick, that's just your own OCD (or whatever) talking, and there's no point to the system you're describing. It doesn't save performance like the current system and it's just a hassle for the person ratting.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2015-05-04 09:24:50 UTC
Geralt Kleiner wrote:
So i've been ratting as my main source of income for some time now, and one thing that bothered me from the first time i started killing NPC Pirates to now is the way the bounty money gets into my wallet, those always changing 20 minute ticks of bounty collection made the whole deal feel like a never ending chore, always wanting to complete the remaining of a tick, but never wanting to leave a anom half-finished.

So i wanted to suggest a new to for capsuleers to collect their bounty, instead of the money simply appearing into your wallet every 20 minutes, it would accumulate and you could withdraw everything at once at the nearest station's Bounty Office.

That would add some ultility for the Bounty Office, and there you could check your total bounty accumulated and withdraw the bounty directly to your wallet.


What would be the difference. You get your bounty every 20 min or you push one button at the end and get your bounty, i can´t see an improvement for the gameplay.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2015-05-04 10:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Cade Windstalker wrote:
There is literally no benefit to "completing" a wallet tick, that's just your own OCD (or whatever) talking, and there's no point to the system you're describing. It doesn't save performance like the current system and it's just a hassle for the person ratting.

Would just be like the ESS bounty pooling, which we already have in place. I also don't see a hassle. You have to dock -- or get docked forcefully -- in a station at some point anyways. Would just be a little distraction from your then ensuing ship spinning.

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