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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2015-05-02 05:56:35 UTC
Eli Stan wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
With the upcoming sov changes I was thinking about null as a home ... but I still can't see the benefits to actually live in nullsec. Logistics, market access, defending sov, required highsec alts, ... all too strong negative points IMO.

For those of you having their main place of residence in null, please tell what were your reasons to move and stay?


NPC SOV FTW. Syndicate has easy logistics (single jump from null to a lowsec system next to a highsec system.) The markets aren't great but trade hubs are a short inty trip away. No SOV to defend. No need to highsec alts due to those short inty trips. All stations are dockable, so it's possible to stash ships all over the region. Unlike Outer Ring, there are plenty of stations. ISK opportunities are enough to sustain fun small-gang PvP. There are no gate/station guns or sec status to worry about - you can engage whomever you wish (or can), and pod all day long and retain 5.0 sec status. And you know exactly who is, and who is not, a friend; Not Purple? Shoot It.

There is the added complexity of warp disruption bubbles, but that can be made to work for you as much as it works against you.

Syndicate is'nt a good example for living in nullsec because it's NPC and easy to get in and out. There is no reason IMO to commit to this space instead of just living out of a highsec trade hub and roam / clone jump there whenever you like.

I'm my own NPC alt.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2015-05-02 13:33:05 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Mithandra wrote:
Gypsien Agittain wrote:
Those of you that think that a regular line-member of an alliance makes more money in nullsec than an average highsec carebear know absolutely nothing about wealth generation in EVE.


And that's not a problem with the available wealth in 0.0, that's a problem with how its distributed and that's down to how corporations and alliances are run, and THAT is down to the players, not CCP.





That's like saying how the Soviet Union ran is down to its citizens instead of comrade Stalin.Lol

Well... When you get older you will see that this is how things go in the World of people.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Bogdo Lama
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#103 - 2015-05-02 16:05:48 UTC
Maksim Cammeren wrote:
Arronicus wrote:


Highsec incursions in decent groups like ISN can pull 100m/hour reliably, with lower risk than similarly paying nullsec activities. As a very long time nullsec resident, the income is nowhere remotely close to 10x more. The only activity that is really safer in null than high is mining.



As someone who earned most of my ISK that way, I think high-sec Incursions are too good of a money maker. And I do see nullsec alts flying in Incursions all the time, complaining it is better than normal nullsec income.

Which makes me wonder: do nullsec corps regularly run Incursions? I suspect it isn't often, but why? The payout is flat 50% more and surely the big coalitions have the organization and numbers to regularly field solid incursion fleets?

Deep within their territories, the coalitions would have good intel on any fleets moving in and a few cloakies wouldn't stand a chance vs a competent incursion fleet. The only danger is being dropped or bridged on as the fleet lands on incursion accel gates, but the dropping fleet itself will be in danger in middle of hostile space.

So, what's wrong with incursions in nullsec?
Edit: are the 150m/hr sites not worth the trouble?



Why bother. You can do that 150mil/hr easy soloing anoms. However problem with making isk null will be sov changes and no local etc. I for example allready moved out of sov space for these reasons.
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#104 - 2015-05-03 02:00:58 UTC
Garnoo wrote:
nullsec = social game, hisec = still mostly single player



As glorious leader of the Highsec War effort I refute you most soundly good sir

we have plenty going on and it is vastly more entertaining...scope chat is awesome and we just shoot stuff for fun Cool
Gerhard Stringfellow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2015-05-03 12:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gerhard Stringfellow
Null-sec is more mixed and really dependent on who you join. One experience was lame, it was basically, "Here's a supercap, now go play DoTA until you can fly it". I can see why an experience like that might turn you off to the idea.

Other organizations have completely different cultures, and even if you're not on the decision making level, just being able to see how space is being affected, actually being affected by the politics that make eve famous, and taking part in the big battles (despite the frustrations that come with that) make it fun.

Plus, the isk is better, and honestly blue space is safer; I can't stress that enough to new players who think that going into null-sec is like walking into the hood. It's better than hi-sec, for many of you it will be safer, and you won't feel like you're grinding yourself to death (at least as much).

Another pubbie elite PvE pay to win mining carebear