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How long until prices equilibrate to new mega/zyd content?
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Shakuul
Infinitus Sapientia
#1 - 2015-04-30 18:36:10 UTC
Post patch I bought up a number of T1 mods whose prices were significantly (30-50%) lower than their new mineral values. Drones, Ammo, whatever. For items like Prototype Cloaks, where daily volume is extremely high vs. outstanding orders, prices have equilibrated relatively quickly. However, for some of the stuff I bought, people still seem to just be throwing it up at regional average + 10%.

How often are these regional averages recalculated? I assume the sellers are a combination of traders and manufacturers who put in a bunch of pre patch production, so I guess I should be able to just wait it out.

Any thoughts/advice? On paper the amounts I bought weren't insane (maybe 5 days of Jita supply).
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2015-04-30 19:34:28 UTC
I have no idea about the math behind the regional average, and honestly just ignore it.

Instead look at the actual market prices, trade volumes, stock volumes, etc.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#3 - 2015-05-01 01:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Could be a month, or three.

As predicted, almost everyone I know have stopped their Tech 1 production of cruiser hulls and up - waiting for the stock to clear, and the mineral prices to fall, but preferably both.

Lowest player activity in the past 6 years doesn't help either - most spaceships aren't exploded as often as we'd like.

WTS you a Rokh for 195 mln ISK

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Adunh Slavy
#4 - 2015-05-01 01:58:09 UTC
GankYou wrote:

Lowest player activity in the past 6 years doesn't help either ...


Sad

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#5 - 2015-05-01 02:22:42 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/qj6Hot5.png

Indeed.

Between Amarr and Jita there is probably around 1,000 Vexors alone selling below the new build cost.

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2015-05-01 02:28:29 UTC
im expecting morphite to take a few more months before stockpiles are depleted and supply vs demand retakes effect.
if expecting it to at least hit 10k pu again
Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2015-05-01 02:52:15 UTC
GankYou wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/qj6Hot5.png



Think it is just stagnant null? Seems to be more to it.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-05-01 03:24:41 UTC
Could be awhile since there is likely quite a bit of stock sitting in hangars. The volume for the last 5 days looks pretty much unchanged.

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GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#9 - 2015-05-01 03:48:32 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
GankYou wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/qj6Hot5.png



Think it is just stagnant null? Seems to be more to it.


It is a complex issue, but Nullsecks conflicts have always driven this game. Read up on Great Eve War 1 and 2. Smile

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

[WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#10 - 2015-05-01 03:50:24 UTC
GankYou wrote:

Between Amarr and Jita there is probably around 1,000 Vexors alone selling below the new build cost.



And yet I have been selling 10/20 Vexor BPOs - money losing machines - at 350-395m ISK steadily for months.

Go figure.

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GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#11 - 2015-05-01 04:05:14 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
The Tech 1-wide Tiericide hit three days ago. Blink

Sold my last Rokh from the SKINs decoupling for 193 mil just now - Not waiting for the price to rise to whatever peanuts that will be when the Prit/Pyerite/Mex rebalance (even) lower.

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

[WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components
Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2015-05-02 00:52:42 UTC
GankYou wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:
GankYou wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/qj6Hot5.png



Think it is just stagnant null? Seems to be more to it.


It is a complex issue, but Nullsecks conflicts have always driven this game. Read up on Great Eve War 1 and 2. Smile


Yes I am well aware, started late 2005 after all.

The stagnation is larger than just null though

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2015-05-02 05:27:31 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
GankYou wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:
GankYou wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/qj6Hot5.png



Think it is just stagnant null? Seems to be more to it.


It is a complex issue, but Nullsecks conflicts have always driven this game. Read up on Great Eve War 1 and 2. Smile


Yes I am well aware, started late 2005 after all.

The stagnation is larger than just null though



Null stagnation flows to the rest of the game.

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Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2015-05-07 05:59:51 UTC
No one wants to live in null anymore. There are literally entire regions that have been dropped in the past couple weeks and no one is taking that space. Rental empires were shattered, blocks lost their space, but no one wants to live in null. Null isn't stagnant, it's empty. No one wants it anymore.

#T2013
Kilab Gercias
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-05-07 11:59:06 UTC
Literally Space Moses wrote:
No one wants to live in null anymore. There are literally entire regions that have been dropped in the past couple weeks and no one is taking that space. Rental empires were shattered, blocks lost their space, but no one wants to live in null. Null isn't stagnant, it's empty. No one wants it anymore.


Just wait for the new Sov Patch. At the moment new 0.0 alliance would still need to grind the Structures. So everybody is waiting for the 02.06. Then it will be decided what happens to 0.0