EVE General Discussion

Am not here to rant. My affiliation in game has no relevance, and i full expect trolls and negativity.

This is me, my opinion and my thoughts.

There seems to be massive hype for the newly introduced ship skins. I just don't get it.

Let me explain why I, personally, don't get it.

I am fully aware of the current climate in online gaming. Micro transactions are king, and company's in the gaming industry stand to make great money through this concept. In eve online it started with the implementation of clothing etc for our characters which we hardly ever see (thankfully, because walking in stations is really not something I feel the community is that interested in).

Ship skins in my opinion are a pointless. Why? Well personally if I am playing the game, in space, i.e. undocked, I am at least 50% zoomed out, therefore the color scheme of my ship is irrelevant. Further more, one 'skin' is always going to be favored over the rest for a particular ship due to popularity and thus takes away any real sort of customization.

But I guess what I really don't get is why anyone would spend RL money on this type of customization. Paying for a color scheme for your ship?? Just doesn't seem worthwhile to me.

I DO NOT agree with pay to win. And thus this next statement is mute.

Surely the only time you would pay for an 'enhancement' would be when it benefits the game? When it has a profound effect on the ability or performance of the ship? Other than that, why??

Just to reiterate...

I am not suggesting skins should have additional bonuses to the ships they are for.. I am merely saying that other than getting enhanced performance why would you waste money on a completely aesthetic option? An option which doesn't even have the luxury of being 'unique'.

Comments and thoughts welcome, Trolls.. you can comment too.

I need a laugh.

Strange thing to ask. It's almost akin to asking why pay for an online game IRL as it serves no tangible function in the real world for the most part. So I guess the strange part to me is that anyone could ask what you are asking while being subbed to this game yet seemingly understanding of expenditure for personal satisfaction.

I can totally get feeling they are meaningless personally, but asking others to explain something you yourself experience for every non-necessity you indulge in seems strange.

Thank you for your reply. I take some understanding from it, however I have some issue..

I have some experience in the 'special edition' vehicle area. I was the proud owner of a Series 1 Peugeot 106 rallye edition. One of only 1000 imported to the UK in order for Peugeot to enter the vehicle into the 1994 world rally championships, and, although it had a performance upgrade over the standard 1.2 or 1.4 engine types, it was also unique in its aprearence and options.

However..

-There where only 1000 imported to the UK, and from my understanding 2500 built. Making it somewhat unique.
-If it was destroyed, my next 106 wouldn't be 'upgraded' to the same standard, unless I repurchased another of the 1000 imports.

So, Although i can see some relevance in your comparison, my initial thoughts still stand. Why? You are not purchasing something unique. Not purchasing something upgraded. It just seems to me, a waste of money.

... Not everyone plays little dots in space... waiting in fleet, holding on a gate, ganks, mission running, incursions, exploration... to name but a few, all dont require you to be a 10000m from your ship.

It takes about 2seconds to zoom out if needed, so why not appreciate the art of your ships?

Seems entirely relevant as in both cases we're talking about indulging in non-necessities with real world expenses for personal satisfaction of one form or another. I don't see how it becomes less relevant because the money is in addition to the sub. Could you please elaborate?

Also where was the context failure? You stated you didn't see the connection but it was explained, where if anything your division seems a semantic one at best (Comes across as, "if it's not what I would spend money for it can't hold the value of things I would pay money for to someone else." If that's wrong please elaborate).

Clothes are utilised by those who like to show off ...
... mostly as roleplayers. They absolutely have a point ...
... but I will spare you the intimite details. *snickers xD*

And it's all about identification and immersion.
Besides simply offering diversity.

I too play zoomed out ...
... but during travel it's fine to zoom in or look around!

And many people actually do play zoomed in ...
... and if that's a downside for them matters not. :)

Also, worth pointing out that some (I wont bother taking a clueless guess what percentage) wont pay real money for these - I for one will buy any I want off the market like any other ship mod. Granted, they will only appear if players buy them with real money and put them on the market, but from their point of view, thats no different than if they were doing the same with PLEX (buying an in-game item with real money and trading it for isk).

Granted, I'm only likely to bother skinning my capital ships so maybe my perception of the isk cost/value is coloured by that perspective (dropping 1-2bil is an acceptable cost when skinning my Aeon than if I was my Rifter).

It's like you guys are deliberately ignoring the fact that the SKIN system was a compromise for better server and database performance since it was getting to a point that each individual ship variation needed it's own item ID and was making adding new ship cosmetic variations harder and harder.

Now thanks to SKINs the way a ship looks is just an attribute in the ship's stats, and the way it looks is now client side as opposed to forcing the server to keep track of those shennenigans.

As for the NES Store? Well, in a couple of months every SKIN will probably get a -60% price cut, so I wouldn't be that bothered. And even if you ignore the "cash store money grab", which you are free to do so, the SKINs system will make possible for skins like the Quafe Tristan to be gifted and more often distributed in special events like Fanfest, but not at the expense of server stability.

So yeah, saying the SKIN system is pointless is a silly and uninformed opinnion. Just saying!

Statistical knowledge of promotional programs hardly counts for experience, neither does buying one of the promotional items, regardless of how much you spent, and how much the other one was. It is experience, however, in psychologically accommodating yourself to being ripped off. Being robbed with a smile must be some sort of spectacular advance in mental harmony whilst living in the midst of capitalism. As capitalism is the only acceptable motivation for any effort or innovation, naturally saying one can make money from it has to justify it. Woo hoo. Welcome to the land of the heavily indoctrinated.

My view? I'll sell you my view. Just mail me 10,000,000 ISK and I'll send you a note telling you what I think of ship skins.

I just want to reiterate that I am not saying you are wrong for liking ship skins, each to there own. I am just trying to understand the reasoning behind spending RL monies on something purely aesthetic. Something which I don't believe has worth.

I was looking to be informed and educated at other peoples opinions on this topic, but it seems I mostly riled people up.

And before you come back with 'I buy mine with isk so not spending RL money'... someone spent money on that plex.