EVE New Citizens Q&A

There are. Don't do it tho unless you are completely destitute or a young child that can't mow 3 lawns a month and ask parents or guardians to pay for your sub via PayPal or something in exchange for the money. Soon as you focus on plexing you stop having fun and a new player can't afford to stop having fun

At around 17-25 hours you could farm faction warfare complexes. With 2 days of training you could work for pro synergy and achieve it in 40 hours of destroyer savaging. You could run level 1-3 missions to achieve it in 60-80 hours. You could venture mine and achieve it in 250 hours. Anybody know any I missed?

PS these assume you are new

Go to the PS in game channel there is a free lance salvage channel listed. Also go to lanngisi apanake and osmon and ask if you can salvage for anybody. Some people will simply blue the wrecks and let you have them. Or if you like a more emergent form of gameplay you could ninja salvage

I used the following fit to follow around my eve uni mentor and earned my first 300 mil in 1 night with this fit (bear in mind he let em keep all the isk from the loot and i still had to haul and sell it which is probably the most dangerous part)

[Catalyst, Salvage Catalyst]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Capacitor Power Relay II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II

Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Small Salvage Tackle I
Small Salvage Tackle I
Small Salvage Tackle I

You could add a mobile tractor unit to this too to make things a bit quicker. If you have 3 bookmarks to salvage at once take out 2 and drop them at the 2nd and 3rd site then go salvage the first. If your running out of space dump at nearest station the repeat. Noctis will make this process quicker and easier tho so I can not recommend it enough if you go for salvaging as an income stream. Also I found managing 8 fast cycling high slots and my mwd/position to be more entertaining then faction warfare plexing and mining.

use meta moduels when cheap/possible. meta mods are better then base mods and often cheaper... yup...
cap skills and porpulsion skills. salvage rigs increase your chance of successful salvage speeding up the process and also reducing the number of times you need to cycle the salvagers therefore reducing the ammount of time you need to run the salcagers for in total. dont have your prop mod running while your stationary and if you are doing a bit of this tractor beams are essential or you may as well use a salvage algos with salvage drones :D.

PS with drones 5 and a reasonable fit salvage algos it is actually quicker to micro manage the drones and salvage that way with a couple of tractors and salvagers

Two things I did when I was new beside missioning:
- ninja gas mining in WH space with a Venture (no AFK-activity of course)
- combat scanning for lost drones in common mission areas (a few geckos are your jackpot today)

Some other interesting and almost safe activities I used to do:
- stalk gankers and kill&loot their haulers or riskier just loot their prey
- hunt ghost sides in highsec (hint: search in border areas of very active areas, only scan the one odd-named can and GTFO)
- follow RvB fleets around and scoop their T2 drones after fights

My main income today comes from relic exploration in null sec plus some loot from PvP.

EDIT: I don't plex my one account, I spend every ISK on exploding ships.

You should try to avoid making this game into even more of a grind than it already is.

In other MMO's you grind for xp, loot, and cash; in this game the xp (skill points) come at you for free, don't even have to be logged in to get them. The loot is all crafted by players (or rather, the crafted gear is good enough and sometimes even best-in-slot). So that leaves the grind for cash, and boy oh boy does it make up for the lack of the other two grinds, in this game. To give perspective, CCP has hired an economy / finance PhD (long ago) to make sure the in-game economy is "balanced," that the influx of ISK is matched by the sinks, and that the value of ISK is kept relatively constant.

So you're looking for the shortcuts against this background.

There are ways to make money, even enough to pay for the subscription, but they're set up to require MUCH more effort than working ANY real life job to make $20 for a PLEX.

Typically, you can start with the guaranteed-but-fixed return-per-hour activities:

- mining
- agent missions
- doing Faction Warfare for LP points to convert to cash
- probing out exploration sites for the loot

... to build a little bit of capital, after which you can switch to methods that have profits depend on how much you invest:

- speculative trading (often based on announced patch day changes to the game)
- daytrading (day-to-day speculation) and transport-trading
- manufacturing or tech2 "research / inventions" for profit

... or you can continue with higher payout fixed return activities:

- run incursions
- run wormhole exploration sites
- nullsec ratting / complexes / anomalies / exploration sites


There are also high-payout-but-unreliable activities:

- gate camping (suicide attacks on transport ships with 100+ million cargo inside)
- corp theft (infiltrate and then steal everything when they trust you and give you access)
- scamming people out of their money in various ways (contract scams, market scams, lotteries, anything)
- piracy / ransoming (kill the bling ships that people often fly to get to PVE locations)
- extortion wars (declare war, threaten to attack them if they don't pay hundreds of millions)

If you can afford a regular sub and use whatever you earn in game to do whatever the hell you want you'll be have more fun than if you treat the game like a second job.

And you become yellow so every one can shoot you. The newbee question is : after concord kills ganker, can I loot its tornado wreck without becomming criminal or it is also yellow?

I can't teach you to have balls.
You have to learn that yourself! :)

And if you read properly, I said ...
... initiate warpoff ...
... hit LOOT ALL.

There is a high chance you get away.
Did that quite a few times.
You can gain hundreds of millions or even billions,
for risking a cheap magnate. :)

And if you succeed and loot a small fortune ...
... I promise you that you will be thrilled from the experience ......

....... of moving it to a tradehub! *snickers xD*

It's good advise. If you take it or not is your choice. (: