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High sec anoms to escalations

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FisherNab
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-27 00:14:30 UTC
So this weekend I thought I would try it.

Jumped into a drone boat and off I went, 14 green high sec sites proc'ed into 3/10 sites. After running all 14 I came back with 14 overseers effects. Is this normal?

Every scanned 3/10 site I found dropped some deadspace module 99% being worth under 1m isk but it was exciting all the same. But for every low sec escalation nothing.

Anyone had this before?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-04-27 00:33:54 UTC
I have gotten pirate ship BPCs from the 3/10 escalations before as well as decent drops also, only thing I can say is bad luck.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-04-27 02:00:01 UTC
Yeah, the drops are all random.

In Exploration, expect the worse and hope for the best.



DMC

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Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-04-27 11:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
I stopped doing actively escalations. The time to jump 10++ times for, if youre lucky, the same loot like any other combat site, is simply too high.
Also there is no guaranted loot drop, which resulted for me in several escalations into lowsec, where I dodged combat probes for 20++min, until finally the faction bs spawn gave me... nothing. And even if there was a lootdrop it wasnt worth the risk of a ship close to 80million.
So atm if I get an escalation in highsec I ignore it completely or do it if I come close to the system. Low sec is a no go.
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#5 - 2015-04-27 14:18:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikonia
Some additional information.

In fact, it is like DMC said: it is all random what can drop, and it is in all tiers like that.

From my experience with expeditions i can tell you, it is an "all or nothing" issue. Im doing the exploration stuff pretty long time and sometimes you can go crazy about the crap which drops. But it is the huge joy, when you have good luck that drives us all.

I see exploration, as i have written a dozen times i believe: It is like the job as captain of a fish trawler. You never know what ends up in your nets until the day is over. This "treasure hunting" is literally thrilling when you are lucky, but can be extremely boring on the flip side of the coin. After years i decided not to leave out anything i get, except it is too dangerous.

Im pretty fixed in my area and mostly doing Sansha and drones sigs and anos, if i decide to only do highsec and lowsec for the day. I simpßly only go into unrated sites, 3/10 and 4/10 in highsec, in lowsec also some 5/10 and 6/10. the number of expeditions you trigger in signatures is probaly a bit higher than in anomalies, but usually the expeditions i trigger in anos are higher in tier and so far i only got such that lead me to low or nullsec.

Example: From Sansha Den anomaly in highsec i often got the expedition Neural paralytic (5/10) in lowsec or nullsec, usually within a range of about 12-16 jumps. Thats definitely a stuff for 2 battleships, at least i do it that way. Loot? IF you can handle the 3rd pocket = WOW. Often enough B-Type adaptive nanos, usually a pirate faction cruiser BPC, sometimes even tech2 implants, often like 2-4 pieces in the named rat equaling in or around 500-700 mio market value. For 12-16 jumps, only 1 site, no escalation and about 40 mins work this is a nice share, even for 2.

Example 2: From Sansha Vigil signature in highsec i often got the infamous true Power Shipyards expedition. Usually all highsec but last site, usually within 6-12 jumps distance, often enough ends up in first site (alternate solution which i cant play etc). Sometimes leads through 4 or even 5 sites in according distance. Loot? Well, can be great, can be crap. Highest i had was 840 mio market value out of one. Lowest was below 20 mio market value allthough i did everything correct until to last site including battlefleet. Sometimes i bail out of Vigil with nothing, sometimes with 200 mio without expedition.

Yes, it is all a matter of luck. But since competition in highsec is huge and sites are rare, i wouldnt let the expeditions out. Those are assigned to you only, and you have the option of up to 5 times loot. Additional i just count the first expedition with its 4-5 sites, a real escalation to next tier is even more options for loot.

But well, that is what exploration or "treasure hunting" is all about. You cant have riches every day :)
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#6 - 2015-04-27 14:36:43 UTC
Nycha wrote:
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So atm if I get an escalation in highsec I ignore it completely or do it if I come close to the system. Low sec is a no go.


Just some background. Expeditions leading to low or null arent that bad. Usually the entry gates from high to low and from low to null are camped, which depends also on where you are located. Past that lowsec is not that dangerous, especially if your ship is fitted correctly. Expeditions are especially good, because those sites only can be scanned with combat probes as they dont appear on normal scanners. So keep your d-scan open when somebody enters system. No combat probes? No danger.

To clarify the "correct ship fit":
im using 2 toons, 1 scanner, 1 combat.
Scanner is always unarmed, built to escape. Warp core stabs, agility modifiers, t3 interdiction nullified, signature reduced and pilot with halos to reducve signature further and of course covop cloak. Means, that ship is in 2.6 in warp and in 2.7 cloaked. Only specialized tacklers in fleets usually can capture that one. For those normal pirates it is mostly like:

a.) can lock me, but cant scramble me (stabs)
b.) could scramble me, but cant lock me before im gone (signature reduced, quick warp, haloed pilot)

And those, with fleets and bubbles and such in nullsec, you can see by checking the statistics (ships killed last hour) easily and avoid.

How the combat is fitted, depends on where im flying around (correct weapons, correct resists). Never go for omni, when you dont fight omnis (e.g. sleeper are omni). And IF omni, then adaptive PLUS reactive.

And last but least: Never forget that greed will kill you somewhen for sure. If you dont like the situation, leave it.
Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-04-27 18:21:28 UTC
My experience is that in at least 50% of the low-sec systems where the expedition is I encounter combat probes.
First 2 times it happened I didnt had a cloak so I was warping around my saves until they got bored which gets old very fast. After that I got smart and fitted a cloak.
Some sites I had to abandon because after waiting 30 min there were still combat probes flying around. I wouldnt have so much patience.
I seem to be unlucky as the best low sec drop was 40 million until now. Half of the times I got nothing.
So far I didnt lost a ship so Im not doing it completely wrong I guess.
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#8 - 2015-04-28 08:46:49 UTC
Nycha wrote:
My experience is that in at least 50% of the low-sec systems where the expedition is I encounter combat probes.
First 2 times it happened I didnt had a cloak so I was warping around my saves until they got bored which gets old very fast. After that I got smart and fitted a cloak.
Some sites I had to abandon because after waiting 30 min there were still combat probes flying around. I wouldnt have so much patience.
I seem to be unlucky as the best low sec drop was 40 million until now. Half of the times I got nothing.
So far I didnt lost a ship so Im not doing it completely wrong I guess.



It really depends on where you are located. Except in my home region im as concerned about going through a border gate as you are, too. Generally i prefer to go through WHspace to nullsec, because of the benefits:

- No passing of borders, where camps are very probable.
- Covering usually a far distance in very short time. Usually to systems i wouldnt evn bother to travel in like 30+ jumps through gates.
- Weekend trips to nullsec are mostly total harmless through WHspace. Everybody in there leaves to either do some pewpew else where OR they leave to not become a target on weekend. WHspace is literally empty on weekend. And when interdiction nullified (interceptor or t3) Interdictors or bubbles are worth a smile, but not more. And barely anyone is as bored to make a bubble camp in WHspace - few trespassers, danger of being ambushed and there are more easy targets in lowsec anyway.

I know, it sounds pathetic. But the assumed higher risk in nullsec is easily covered by the higher income of nullsec. Lowsec is not that way. In lowsec the risk is higher than the assumed higher income. In nullsec not everyone is automatically hostile. In lowsec everybody is automatically hostile. So if you want fights, go low but always have support available. There is nobody fighting a fair 1:1, lowsec are mostly kids and lowskillers that wouldnt have a bare chance in null. Just traps, baits and outnumbering kiddy gankers :)

In null you either encounter huge fleets on hunts and strifes (HIDE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE). More frequently you encounter people of corps roaming their territory - they seldom charge you, allthough they would give it a try if they see you. And a lot of travellers for which you arent really of interest. Just be careful in NPC nullsec. This is like lowsecs next level, just more dangerous :)

Have fun
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#9 - 2015-04-28 20:50:29 UTC
rng is rng nothing to it... really.

I tried once the anomaly-roulette.

After 50 sites got maybe 8-10 escalations out of those 1 drop worth 80 mill all the rest were junk.

But... it's rng nothing to it.