Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That's a pretty good idea IMO but sadly this constant gameplay will make a lot of other miner (aka isboxer) angry or sad, because if this become a thing, this could get hard to mine properly on more than 1 account at a time. And I have the feeling on these forums that isboxer miners are not a minority.
I can't tell about server performance and such though, 3D things in space in eve-online are not that easy to implement as far as I know.

Just a question regarding the idea : the asteroid could still deplete as usual once no more units are inside a roid ?

Edit : I think you should be better checking this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=231014&find=unread , read the first post and add your idea there, because your proposal look like one of the mining method proposed,

It would displace the AFK-miners, and to a lesser extent multi-boxers.

To keep roughly the same volume of mineral influx to the economy it'd have to be balanced around the idea of miners making more ISK per toon, with less toons.

To take the idea a tiny step further; only strip miner modules melt asteroids. Regular ones are too weak/whatever to damage them. It's a micro-tiericide for mining lasers instead of just training for the biggest module possible.

On an aside note, there's a mining interdiction mechanic to find here - just over-mine nodes to deny minerals to everyone else. Don't like people messing with your income? Shoot them.

so, basically, anyone who isnt available to have their face focused on just one screen doing the same repetitive task thousands of times a day should just not log on to EVE at all?

Sorry, but I have a day job. "minigames" stop being games when your forced to do them thousands of times, if we wanted minigames wed all be playing candy crush, not EVE.

and whats so bad about having ONE playstyle that allowed someone to play while at work, or doing school things on a second monitor, mining is semi-active playstyle for people whod rather focus on other work or chat or mumble or whatever, people who for more reasons than just multi-boxing cant devote that much attention to the game.

You want to take that away in favor of something that can ONLY be described as boring and repetitive monkey-work. This wont suddenly make people flock to mining as a "fun profession" it doesnt solve the "boring" gameplay you claim to want to fix. all it does is require people to exponentially increase the number of clicks and dedicated time on screen required for the same result, in a profession that doesnt make that much comparitively to begin with. This would drive away ALOT of people, not just multiboxing accounts, but actual people, from mining, and for many of them EVE as a whole.


TL;DR leave mining alone, it serves its gameplay purpose, if you want a more active playstyle, they exist, there are THOUSANDS of them.

(and like stated above, minigames like hacking suck because the less i can see of the screen for situational awareness, the less desire i have to make the risk, because i literally cant SEE any windows im reliant on to even know if im alone in the system let alone if they arer approaching on the d-scan i also cant see)

Just to be clear OP, for Nariya's sake, you're proposing the grid that appears is in a big, obnoxious, window that covers your overview and your d-scan.


Yep. Thanks for clarifying, a fullscreen window just like probing and PI.

Sooo....unless I play a game, that from the sounds of it is boring as heck, I'll get a lower mining output....? This will some how via internet magic make people...mine more or find something boring fun?

Have I got your proposal right?

Sorry. Nope. -1

An active mining system where the less active get a lower output is... a PVP mining system in a similar vein to market PVP. You're competing against other people [indirectly] for those ISKies.

I'm speculating here, but I think that's what multiboxers do - compete against non-boxers to get the most output.

Why shouldn't we punish those that don't work as hard?

My line of thinking about multiboxing is that each account needs occasional management. Targeting new rocks, changing crystals, etc. It's trivial for one account, but non-trivial when you run 10 accounts (I'm deliberately leaving out third party software to manage them because of how close that is to input-broadcasting and botting).

If we're going to argue against a change because of RSI, then we should consider how much RSI other ISK-making activities cause.

Does this minigame introduce any more RSI than shooting little red crosses? That's not a rhetorical question. Answer it. Does the proposed minigame cause more RSI than ratting?

If it does, then so be it - don't put this change in. If it doesn't or you can't say for sure, then you're being irrationally alarmist.

Tangential to this: If running anomalies gives people Carpal Tunnel, then it's pretty hypocritical of everyone to cry about minigames ruining the wrists of miners.

Look, the objection is this:

1. Boring ass mini-game.
2. Boring, yet semi-AFK play.

I'll pick 2 every time. So you'll not be making mining more fun you make it less fun. With 2 I can stream something on Netflix or watch a dvd, or even do something on another account. Playing a mini-game reminiscent of an eye-exam just sounds awful...no offense to optometrists.

I'll take a boring activity that can be done semi-AFK over a boring activity that requires thousands of clicks any day of the week. The way to punish people for being semi-AFK is to kill their ships, not to make mining a fundamentally horrible activity.

As I have said in the other minimg threads I just don't see how it can be made any more interesting than it currently is. Any mini-game system would become tedious very rapidly and you have to mine for large chunks of time to gain any real reward. There is a reason that people risk lower sec space and rarely change the extractor heads more than once or twice a day...

Comet mining may work if it is high competition/risk for higher reward but that's the only idea I actively support.