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Secuirty of space in relation to L4 missions question
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uu Parmala
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-04 17:22:13 UTC
Hi

so I know that the payout for l4 missions in npc null are higher than normal highsec lvl 4s (LP payout is double/triple)

are lowsec lvl 4 missions paying out slighlty higher than highsec due to it's location? Normally I could just fly to lowsec, open a window with an agent to find out, but I cant get on eve right now so I was just wondering if someone knew. I noticed there are lvl 4 agents in lowsec and was wondering if the had purpose (i.e. more risk for the space you are in = higher payout than highsec).

thanks
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2015-04-04 20:39:36 UTC
uu Parmala wrote:
Hi

so I know that the payout for l4 missions in npc null are higher than normal highsec lvl 4s (LP payout is double/triple)

are lowsec lvl 4 missions paying out slighlty higher than highsec due to it's location? Normally I could just fly to lowsec, open a window with an agent to find out, but I cant get on eve right now so I was just wondering if someone knew. I noticed there are lvl 4 agents in lowsec and was wondering if the had purpose (i.e. more risk for the space you are in = higher payout than highsec).

thanks

Yes, L4 low-sec agents pay marginally better than L4 high-sec agents. Due to the increased risk associated, it's my opinion they're not worth it.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-04-04 23:23:56 UTC
actually ss does effect the payout alot, 10% more per .1 lower
so when u get 1000 isk payout in 1.0, u get 1500 isk in .5 u get 2000 isk in .0 and if i remember correct the same goes for lp
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#4 - 2015-04-05 04:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Mac
Not sure about ISK.
Yesterday i got two same missions from two agents in same station. Both missions in same system. One agent with more standing than another gave me less ISK than another. Both agents gave me same LP.
AFAIK, each -0.1 ss +10% LP
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#5 - 2015-04-05 15:08:18 UTC
The real question about higher payouts in low and nul is simply does that offset the risks and potential costs of ship replacement?
The answer is different for each individual so you will have to decide for yourself.

I tried lvl 4's in low and based on the marginal increase in payout / LP it would take many many months to offset the loss of a single cheap lvl 4 mission fit ship. To me the fact that a single easy to make mistake could cost months of game play time was not worth it so I no longer run lvl 4's in low.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#6 - 2015-04-06 13:44:31 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
The real question about higher payouts in low and nul is simply does that offset the risks and potential costs of ship replacement?
The answer is different for each individual so you will have to decide for yourself.

I tried lvl 4's in low and based on the marginal increase in payout / LP it would take many many months to offset the loss of a single cheap lvl 4 mission fit ship. To me the fact that a single easy to make mistake could cost months of game play time was not worth it so I no longer run lvl 4's in low.


This.

L4 missions are not worth it in lowsec. Needs to be fixed to actually encourage people to run them. Who wants to risk a mission ship for a couple more million isk?

L5s could use a boost too, along with putting some L5 agents in null. Can you say L5 pirate faction missions?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-04-06 14:00:32 UTC
When you get lvl4s from agent next to low-sec sometime it tries to send you to adjacent low-sec.

What if you talk to agent in low-sec? Is there a chance to be sent to adjacent high-sec? Lol

It would be cool to use it on chance-by-chance basis between regular high-sec mission runs....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Julius Priscus
#8 - 2015-04-26 13:14:55 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
The real question about higher payouts in low and nul is simply does that offset the risks and potential costs of ship replacement?
The answer is different for each individual so you will have to decide for yourself.

I tried lvl 4's in low and based on the marginal increase in payout / LP it would take many many months to offset the loss of a single cheap lvl 4 mission fit ship. To me the fact that a single easy to make mistake could cost months of game play time was not worth it so I no longer run lvl 4's in low.


This.

L4 missions are not worth it in lowsec. Needs to be fixed to actually encourage people to run them. Who wants to risk a mission ship for a couple more million isk?

L5s could use a boost too, along with putting some L5 agents in null. Can you say L5 pirate faction missions?


when lvl 5 agents was about to be released. pirate factions did have lvl 5 missions on sisi. how ever ccp decided that only empire factions should have lvl 5 agents.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-04-26 14:38:20 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
uu Parmala wrote:
Hi

so I know that the payout for l4 missions in npc null are higher than normal highsec lvl 4s (LP payout is double/triple)

are lowsec lvl 4 missions paying out slighlty higher than highsec due to it's location? Normally I could just fly to lowsec, open a window with an agent to find out, but I cant get on eve right now so I was just wondering if someone knew. I noticed there are lvl 4 agents in lowsec and was wondering if the had purpose (i.e. more risk for the space you are in = higher payout than highsec).

thanks

Yes, L4 low-sec agents pay marginally better than L4 high-sec agents. Due to the increased risk associated, it's my opinion they're not worth it.

Any sisters agents in .1 sec space?
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-04-26 18:12:45 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
uu Parmala wrote:
Hi

so I know that the payout for l4 missions in npc null are higher than normal highsec lvl 4s (LP payout is double/triple)

are lowsec lvl 4 missions paying out slighlty higher than highsec due to it's location? Normally I could just fly to lowsec, open a window with an agent to find out, but I cant get on eve right now so I was just wondering if someone knew. I noticed there are lvl 4 agents in lowsec and was wondering if the had purpose (i.e. more risk for the space you are in = higher payout than highsec).

thanks

Yes, L4 low-sec agents pay marginally better than L4 high-sec agents. Due to the increased risk associated, it's my opinion they're not worth it.

Any sisters agents in .1 sec space?

There's some in low-sec Aridia region, and in NPC null in Pure Blind.
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#11 - 2015-04-26 18:14:57 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
uu Parmala wrote:
Hi

so I know that the payout for l4 missions in npc null are higher than normal highsec lvl 4s (LP payout is double/triple)

are lowsec lvl 4 missions paying out slighlty higher than highsec due to it's location? Normally I could just fly to lowsec, open a window with an agent to find out, but I cant get on eve right now so I was just wondering if someone knew. I noticed there are lvl 4 agents in lowsec and was wondering if the had purpose (i.e. more risk for the space you are in = higher payout than highsec).

thanks

Yes, L4 low-sec agents pay marginally better than L4 high-sec agents. Due to the increased risk associated, it's my opinion they're not worth it.

Any sisters agents in .1 sec space?


Try Agent Finder in game.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-04-26 18:33:42 UTC
Mr Mac wrote:
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:

Any sisters agents in .1 sec space?


Try Agent Finder in game.

http://www.my-eve.com/agent_finder
You can thank me later.
Eru GoEller wrote:
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:

Any sisters agents in .1 sec space?

There's some in low-sec Aridia region, and in NPC null in Pure Blind.

Whoa that lowsec system is way too hot.

Idle musings looking at the killboard: You know, I always wonder how so many people manage to lose their pod in lowsec. If its not smartbombs theres really no excuse.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#13 - 2015-04-26 20:28:58 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Idle musings looking at the killboard: You know, I always wonder how so many people manage to lose their pod in lowsec. If its not smartbombs theres really no excuse.

Idle reply based on the low sec corp my son is in. Dedicated pilots in insta lock ships sitting there just to grab pods. Seen it done god only nows how many times.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-04-26 21:12:43 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Idle musings looking at the killboard: You know, I always wonder how so many people manage to lose their pod in lowsec. If its not smartbombs theres really no excuse.

Idle reply based on the low sec corp my son is in. Dedicated pilots in insta lock ships sitting there just to grab pods. Seen it done god only nows how many times.

Ok now THAT definitely qualifies as dedication.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2015-04-27 00:56:09 UTC
even so pods are almost always able to warp out, fast locking ships can't beat server ticks.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-04-27 09:27:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
even so pods are almost always able to warp out, fast locking ships can't beat server ticks.

say that to my pods which where already locked the second my ship got blown up, but yeah most die to smartbombs