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Supercap Nerfbat change prices?

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Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-09-12 13:13:13 UTC
Will the Goonswarm QQ supercrap nerfbat have an effect on the prices?

Should I sell my 4 S/C now?

don't want to have expensive piece of metal laying around after the nerfgun shoots.

Opinions?
Aamrr
#2 - 2011-09-12 13:47:13 UTC
I'm pretty sure that this kind of speculation has already eroded any kind of savings you might have had. The price of supercarrier pilots on the character bazaar is certainly indicative of this.

My instincts tell me that you've probably missed the boat, Maybe someone with more expertise can give a more reasoned response, but I think you're a bit late.
Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-09-12 13:50:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Shadowsword
All we know for sure right now is that the supercarriers are getting a nerf, and dreds are getting a buff.

If you sell now, with the SC prices already down in anticipation of the nerf, only CCP can predict if you'll lose money, or gain some. Depend of the severity of the nerf.

I suspect it will be quite a severe nerf myself.
Aamrr
#4 - 2011-09-12 14:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Aamrr
Shadowsword wrote:
I suspect it will be quite a severe nerf myself.


I hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath. This really is a case where too little is absolutely worse than too much.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#5 - 2011-09-12 14:27:05 UTC
But DRF will still be geting them ?

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Citizen of Solitude
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#6 - 2011-09-12 15:09:59 UTC
Aamrr wrote:
Shadowsword wrote:
I suspect it will be quite a severe nerf myself.


I hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath. This really is a case where too little is absolutely worse than too much.


Agreeing with this, I want the nyx to be the new brutix and the aeon the new omen. Ideally worse.

You wanna chase FOTM, you accept the consequences.
Aamrr
#7 - 2011-09-12 15:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aamrr
The unfortunate fact being that they're still perfectly serviceable carrier pilots. There's almost no supercarrier skills that aren't also necessary for carriers. It's basically "fighter bombers" and "remote ECM bursts."

Edit: I think most of the supercarrier pilots would agree that even if they were nerfed into the ground, they've gotten their mileage out of those two skills.
Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-09-13 08:17:35 UTC
so prices wil drop? or not? or what? I don't know jack squat.
Aamrr
#9 - 2011-09-13 08:28:38 UTC
Neither do any of the rest of us. It's all just speculation at this point.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-09-13 11:33:05 UTC
Trolls Troll wrote:
so prices wil drop? or not? or what? I don't know jack squat.


Prices HAVE dropped. Now its just a case of waiting to see if they drop moar or come back up a bit.... and that depends on how big a nurf bat ccp use.

Personaly i hope they use an XL with a nail in it

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freshspree
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-09-14 04:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: freshspree
My speculation is that there's going to be a reduction in both stats and materials needed to build them. I haven't seen anything that says dreads will be getting buffed. A super revamp is good enough.

Also, check the sell order section and see for ya self, noob.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-09-14 05:49:27 UTC
All speculation. There most likely will be no nerf at all. CCP has only hinted at a reballance, and that could mean anything from nerfing titans to buffing dreads and carriers.

But sure lets speculate some more, what the new patch MAY include:

- Reduce EHP to be double of a normal carrier
- Reduce jump range
- Reduce drone carrying ability
- make a black hole form in system if too many Scs are there and they all die
- Add gunz to SCs
- Add a new Tier 2 dread to slot between a normal dread and a titan
- Super bombing BSs
- Dessys with special drone killing abilities
- Throw more dots now!
- Set fleet compositions to have 1 SC per squad
- Make SC owners pay for upkeep
- Increase the cost of SCs via PI or crew wages
- Ability to save agro reducing abilities for when it lands
- Playing dead, vanish... erm ******* faded.
- Multiple capsuleers to fly 1 SC
- Remove all offensive and defensive bonuses
- Remove ability to use RR and to receive RR
- Remove ECM immunity
- Now allow slave sets to affect SCs
- Ability to put dots up on every time

hmm... what else?

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-09-14 05:53:19 UTC
Trolls Troll wrote:
Will the Goonswarm QQ supercrap nerfbat have an effect on the prices?

Should I sell my 4 S/C now?

don't want to have expensive piece of metal laying around after the nerfgun shoots.

Opinions?


Sell ur ships, train up ur chars for titanz

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Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-09-14 06:31:02 UTC
freshspree wrote:
I haven't seen anything that says dreads will be getting buffed. A super revamp is good enough.


There you go.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/feature/5584/EVE-Online-PAX-Tranquility-and-the-Future-of-EVE.html


Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#15 - 2011-09-26 08:18:51 UTC
Headerman wrote:


hmm... what else?


MOAR DOTZ!!!!

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beor oranes
Tranquility Tavern
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2011-09-26 08:33:53 UTC
Headerman wrote:
Sell ur ships, train up ur chars for titanz


I'm sure I read somewhere or was told by someone within the DRF that they are now looking to upgrade all current Super Carrier pilots within the alliances to Titan pilots and help with the price differences. With the idea being instead of dropping 30/40 SC's on random fleets instead they drop 30/40 Titans and that way they wont have any issues killing any fleet they come up against. And then with more organised fleets dropping 100+ Titans. How true this is I have no idea but the idea is scary.
lord xavier
Rubbed Out
#17 - 2011-09-26 08:43:09 UTC
Headerman wrote:
All speculation. There most likely will be no nerf at all. CCP has only hinted at a reballance, and that could mean anything from nerfing titans to buffing dreads and carriers.

But sure lets speculate some more, what the new patch MAY include:

- Reduce EHP to be double of a normal carrier
- Reduce jump range
- Reduce drone carrying ability
- make a black hole form in system if too many Scs are there and they all die
- Add gunz to SCs
- Add a new Tier 2 dread to slot between a normal dread and a titan
- Super bombing BSs
- Dessys with special drone killing abilities
- Throw more dots now!
- Set fleet compositions to have 1 SC per squad
- Make SC owners pay for upkeep
- Increase the cost of SCs via PI or crew wages
- Ability to save agro reducing abilities for when it lands
- Playing dead, vanish... erm ******* faded.
- Multiple capsuleers to fly 1 SC
- Remove all offensive and defensive bonuses
- Remove ability to use RR and to receive RR
- Remove ECM immunity
- Now allow slave sets to affect SCs
- Ability to put dots up on every time

hmm... what else?


- Would that require a cut in minerals and **** off the the supercap owners?
- Goddamnit. They already jump like ****.
- Bombers only?
- lulz
- Jesus, dont give theGood Idea Fairy any of those.
- Would be amusing to buff dreads AND do that. IMO
- With 3x the power of a T2 smartbomb coming to a Jita near you!
- 1 mom per squad and one titan per wing.
- Removing ECM Immunity except to warp scrams/disruptors.
- Would be nice...

Lets not forget:

- Turn them into a mobile POS
- Make it so they can only go so far from home system
- Return the AOE DD to effect only other SC at full damage. Where as dreads/carriers only recieve 1/4 of the damage of a single AEO and subcaps receive none.
- Bathrooms installed in your ships
- Be able to walk around your SC (****** if your toilet is on the other side of the Rag when you gotta go)
Jacob Stov
#18 - 2011-09-26 20:21:25 UTC
Well, as long as the Hel get's some attention in the rebalancing effort, I'm all for it. Oh, and goddamn decide if Crystals and Slaves affect or don't affect capital ships.
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-27 02:46:27 UTC
I have no problem with titans becoming the new supercarrier... they just need to nerf the dd a little... do so ships that are agressed.in space dont disappear after 15 mins after the pilot logs off... if the ship is still being shot at

Also reduce the tracking some more of titans so they have harder time hitting sup caps.

About sc price... if you ask me... price should remain almost the same... otherwise ccp needs to increase build cost... but its always going to be supply and demand.

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