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Anti-Industry bias and Ore/Mineral Hostility by CCP

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ChataJohn
#1 - 2015-04-25 04:02:41 UTC
Well all you gunslingers probably won't care, so don't bother to talk - however - some of the Industrialists and Miners may.

1st We get extra amounts of minerals required to build things.
2nd Then we get increasing craziness in components hell to build T2 and T3
3rd Then you screw over everyone who ever improved a blueprint w/ the blueprint 10/20 schema with no reimbursement
for years of effort.

Now we get the April 2015 update which is going to up the amounts of the rarest and most critical minerals.

Do you just want the average player, let alone the new players to never be able to build anything CCP?

Or is this more of the continuing unspoken war you are carrying out against any one who dares to want to live and work in High Sec?

Or is it the apparent bias of - if you don't blow **** up - the game is not really for you!

I'd really rather believe that none of those are true, the economy is awesome, the markets hum along well, inflation is not to bad,
and industry actually works - AS IT IS. QUIT SREWING AROUND WITH IT.

Just get it over with already and completely randomize ore respawn in all sectors of space and quit screwing around with the Industry by making it harder and harder.


You are NOT helping - CCP.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-04-25 05:28:14 UTC
ChataJohn wrote:
Well all you gunslingers probably won't care, so don't bother to talk - however - some of the Industrialists and Miners may.

1st We get extra amounts of minerals required to build things.
2nd Then we get increasing craziness in components hell to build T2 and T3
3rd Then you screw over everyone who ever improved a blueprint w/ the blueprint 10/20 schema with no reimbursement
for years of effort.

Now we get the April 2015 update which is going to up the amounts of the rarest and most critical minerals.

Do you just want the average player, let alone the new players to never be able to build anything CCP?

Or is this more of the continuing unspoken war you are carrying out against any one who dares to want to live and work in High Sec?

Or is it the apparent bias of - if you don't blow **** up - the game is not really for you!

I'd really rather believe that none of those are true, the economy is awesome, the markets hum along well, inflation is not to bad,
and industry actually works - AS IT IS. QUIT SREWING AROUND WITH IT.

Just get it over with already and completely randomize ore respawn in all sectors of space and quit screwing around with the Industry by making it harder and harder.


You are NOT helping - CCP.

so im taking it you didnt even read the proposal

they are rebalancing available minerals to be distributed in similar ratios as to what is actually required for ship production.

so instead of mining for materials, and ending up wasting several hours or days extra mining for a specific mineral (mexallon if i recall was still the big nullsec bottleneck) and having alot of useless excess low AND high end minerals, youll instead have roughly the exact amounts you need fo each type for your ship, and be able to ge tthem quicker, since their is no wasted materials of any one type while trying to mine for a now non-existent bottleneck.


now granted, i have my own reservations about this change, mostly that previously those excess minerals could be diverted to other projects that didnt need as much of the bottleneck and therefore could make do with lftovers, but whatever.

In the end, this *IS* a buff to productivity/hour for industrialists.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-04-25 19:07:34 UTC
I'm curious. Why do you think that increasing the mineral requirements is BAD for miners? And again, why is it bad for miners to tweak the minerals you get out of an anomaly to numbers you can actually build stuff with?
Cade Windstalker
#4 - 2015-04-26 04:27:59 UTC
OP you really have no clue how this stuff works do you. I mean, first off you appear to have completely missed the accompanying asteroid changes. Second you seem to have a serious aversion to either buying your minerals or mining outside of High Sec. Both at once is inadvisable for someone who claims to have a serious investment in Eve industry.

Second, doubling the amounts of those minerals is going to amount to an at most a 3-5% increase in cost of these items, which translates into profit for producers. That's assuming that the new sources for these minerals don't drop the price down. Currently the market has at least stabilized but it's really too soon to say for sure.

Either way this isn't hurting producers unless you absolutely insist on solo-mining everything you need and not buying any of it.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2015-04-26 05:58:30 UTC
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