Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bombers are not much of an issue with armour battleship fleets. The issue isnt with battleships but with all sheild tanking ships. A good bombing run will rip the heart out of any shield doctrine you care to bring.

Proposal 1:
Halve the current damage and HP of bombs, while leaving other mechanics in place.
Foreseen consequences:
Now, you need to either make multiple runs to hurt a well tanked fleet, or accept that the bombs are there to identify the squishier ships in the fleet at the start of a conventional engagement, and make it a scramble to rep up bomb damage.
Does not include any strong counters to bombs, but makes them less relevent as a single strike AOE kill button.

Proposal 2:
12s reactivation timer on cloak after launching a bomb and bombs don't go off if the bomber isn't on grid, because telemetry and *lore*
Foreseen consequences:
Bomber die much more often, and some bombers end up dead before their bombs go off, taking those bombs out of the way.
Does not strong counter bombs other than fast-locking alpha ships (Hi Mr. Loki.....)

12s to lock, and kill a target?
Especially as this change is intended to limit their effectiveness against battleships, who might get them locked and 2 cycles of short-range guns off at them?

I have seen some without.
I'm firmly in the "a bombing run should be HARD, and rely on the other side screwing up to be particularly effective" camp, so forgive me if I give suggestions based on this belief.
Also, haven't been in null fleets much in the last year and change, so I've only seen it from the bomber's point of view.

I've helped bomb some larger gangs, but never a full fleet.

I realize that this is one of the few effective forms of asymetric warfare, and respect it for that, but would prefer that such things be more reliant on inventiveness and novel approaches than stealth bomber runs hitting almost everything in a fleet if you get lucky enough and your enemy obliges.

hmmm.

Remove sig entirely from the equation, and drop damage per bomb by 25%

Now bombers are scary to everyone who isn't already moving fast.

keep moving, keep living.....

slippery slope effect. Sig radius is universal to missiles as a whole. And ccp in many fixes has made all missiles the same. GMP,rigs, etc that exempted unguided now work for them as an example.


CCP removes this for bombs....they would have to remove it for all. And I can think of many cases where I'd happily give up 25% of my theoretical damage to lose sig radius dependency. As even a target slammed with web if sig low enough is still not getting premium returns on missile damage. edit: Vice guns. I don't ponder long and hard as to why if I know I will have web support out the wazoo why I'd favor bringing a blasterthron over a torp BS.

But thats me...applied damage > theoretical.


I'd also kindly request my TP and sig radius related skills SP invested back. As would many. "Well TP helps turrets" would be a line of crap to sell to the tourists really.

So essentially what you're saying is that you're being punished for fielding pure battleship fleets and not using a mix of all ship classes.

And the problem is with the bombers being too strong?

Why don't you try frigs and destroyers supporting your stuff.



Then you shouldn't have a say. Its a terrible idea, and anyone who likes it doesn't understand EvE.

I completely agree not only with you but with your sig. Unfortunately, you have to have power creep in ishtars and T3s to appease bored players who want ultimate power with all their isk, because they seem unwillingly to stay equal in power to everyone else unless fielding a cap ship.

I can't really imagine the consequences but I toyed with a similar idea for some time. People in small fast ships who are actually playing the game won't be hit by a slow-moving bomb. Battleships will tank the damage easily. It really primarily punishes people for lack of situational awareness instead of all this other stuff.