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[CVA - Imperial Dreams] Amarrian/Allied Loyalist Summit

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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2015-04-23 07:50:51 UTC
is that intended for leaders, or just Faithful ? I am confused...
Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#22 - 2015-04-23 10:35:23 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
is that intended for leaders, or just Faithful ? I am confused...


Neophyte Farel,

A good question.

1) This emergency summit is intended for Corporate & Alliance Leaders, as well as any major Amarrian Holders, and Officers of Amarr Religious/Government Institutions.

2) If a Corporate or Alliance leader wishes to attend with escort, this is allowable, but we ask that the squadron be limited to a fleet no greater than 3 (we will not want to be drawing too much attention to this first summit with regards to it's location being held). We ask that volunteers or assigned duty members to fleet be only trusted Lieutenant/Officers of the institution with a minimum history of 6 month's employment with the organization.

Names of attending pilots will need to be disclosed in advance so that we can make the necessary and appropriate adjustments to standings and to notify Providence Patrol fleets in advance.

3) In the event a Corporate or Alliance leader is unable to attend, they may elect to send a trusted representative in their stead (which may also fly with escort), but such a representative must have written consent from their relevant CEO or Executor (whomever they are representing).

There will be 3 primary items on the agenda. Two of which cannot be disclosed at present, but one will involve the discussion and preliminary planning of a larger Amarr-Caldari summit for all faithful, and allies. .

His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex

Mensha Khael Crow
House Murder
#23 - 2015-04-23 13:14:23 UTC
C0URT would like to be included in this meeting.

I will be curious to know the reasons that motivated this public appeal for the support from the Faithfull.

M.K.Crow
Capsuleer House Murder
Our righteousness is evident in the failures of the heathen, God keep us from falling prey to their weaknesses.
Seranix
Outer Lights Galactic Industries
#24 - 2015-04-23 18:52:11 UTC
Cardinal Dex,

I will ready myself to be available.

Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2015-04-23 19:04:46 UTC
CVA has capable leadership.

However, with all I have witnessed, I cannot help but entertain sincere doubts about their dedication to the Amarr cause and in their faith in God.

If it the threat of war that succeeds in putting the fear of God back into its leadership, and cause them to remember the foundations CVA was built upon, I am willing to hear about how to handle this.
Rorin Cutter
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#26 - 2015-04-23 22:52:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Rorin Cutter
Merdaneth wrote:
CVA has capable leadership.

However, with all I have witnessed, I cannot help but entertain sincere doubts about their dedication to the Amarr cause and in their faith in God.

If it the threat of war that succeeds in putting the fear of God back into its leadership, and cause them to remember the foundations CVA was built upon, I am willing to hear about how to handle this.



My friend, there is no reason to doubt our dedication, ever! Our dedication to God and the Empire is as strong today as it ever was. As long as there are pilots like me in the alliance it will continue towards it's goal of Operation Deliverance.
Todays fleet has shown our dedication. More Amarr Victor(!) and prayers in local then I have ever seen before.

I may be a poor Caldari, a Civire born and raised in Amarrian ways, but my dedication to God, the Empire, should not be doubted.
And the Leadership of CVA is always devoted to God and Empire. They may not express it well, but we are doing our best during dark times for all who fly in the frontier systems. Not only do we enforce NRDS but we try and teach Religion at every level to all that pass our borders.

Also, I had forgotten to ask but Brother Kahar Dex, what meeting are you announcing? with whom is this cleared? And why must one from your own alliance ask this in public?
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#27 - 2015-04-24 04:42:21 UTC
Do you want that question answered, Mr. Cutter?

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#28 - 2015-04-24 07:57:03 UTC
Rorin Cutter wrote:
Merdaneth wrote:
CVA has capable leadership.

However, with all I have witnessed, I cannot help but entertain sincere doubts about their dedication to the Amarr cause and in their faith in God.

If it the threat of war that succeeds in putting the fear of God back into its leadership, and cause them to remember the foundations CVA was built upon, I am willing to hear about how to handle this.



My friend, there is no reason to doubt our dedication, ever! Our dedication to God and the Empire is as strong today as it ever was. As long as there are pilots like me in the alliance it will continue towards it's goal of Operation Deliverance.
Todays fleet has shown our dedication. More Amarr Victor(!) and prayers in local then I have ever seen before.

I may be a poor Caldari, a Civire born and raised in Amarrian ways, but my dedication to God, the Empire, should not be doubted.
And the Leadership of CVA is always devoted to God and Empire. They may not express it well, but we are doing our best during dark times for all who fly in the frontier systems. Not only do we enforce NRDS but we try and teach Religion at every level to all that pass our borders.

Also, I had forgotten to ask but Brother Kahar Dex, what meeting are you announcing? with whom is this cleared? And why must one from your own alliance ask this in public?


Graelyn wrote:
Do you want that question answered, Mr. Cutter?


Brothers, it would behoove us as Amarrians to remain composed within the public forum. We are after all, not minmatar tribalists squabbling amongst one another.

Judgement and accountability amongst the faithful (is good and right) and ought to take place from within our golden halls.

Regardless of the past, a call to engage with the Amarrian bloc is seems more positive than not. I reserve judgement for what is stated at the Summit, but from what most of us have known of Brother Dex, we ought to be optimistic.

We are, and always have been the Loyalist bloc that is the most organized and cohesive. We are Amarr.

All due respect to you great men of course.

United in God and Empress, Amarr is winsome and right and pure. Amen.
Rorin Cutter
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#29 - 2015-04-24 12:03:39 UTC

The question of course was asked, and yes, to be honest I do expect an an answer Cardinal Graelyn, whether in private chambers or in public from brother Kahar Dex.
The doings of CVA are not something to bandy about, and brother Kahar Dex has been back in CVA but three days, and has assumed that he speaks with some authority.
When he takes the time to speak externally in CVA's name then he should explain why he thinks he has the authority to do so.

To be very clear, there is no emergency that requires an “emergency” summit. It is always nice to have our brothers and sisters in Providence, I distrust the timing of this “announcement.” Having said that, If this summit does occur I am of course looking forward to seeing you all in providence.
KaRa DaVuT
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-04-24 13:16:36 UTC
Red Khalmer wrote:
Mashut'Mataari!

In a not so distant future Ushra'Khan will once again be back in Providience and claim what is rightfully ours!
You left your allies in Amarr for good and lost the contact to the empire. the allies you once had doesnt answer your calls for rally anymore, they are either busy with fighting us in the warzone or have turned their eyes elsewhere. The tides are turning.
The Oppression that is Amarr will be no more. The shackles of our people will be no more. the winds of change is coming!

Long live the matari people!



Well said brother.

Mashut'Mataari!

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.

Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
#31 - 2015-04-24 13:52:17 UTC
Cardinal Dex,

As your friend, I shall be there, assuming nothing conflicts with the scheduled time.
Katerina Tzestu
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2015-04-25 08:55:31 UTC
So CVA wishes to taint the rest of the faithful Capsuleers with their unique brand of arrogance, corruption, and incompetence?

Pass, and I urge any true faithful to similarly pass. There may be an emergency that justifies such a meeting, now or in the future, but there will never be such an emergency that requires the aid of an organization such as CVA, for empty words, broken promises, and political grandstanding help nothing but Molok the Deciever.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2015-04-25 09:48:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
Please forgive me if I am understanding wrongly, but how a Faithful can criticize CVA about their Faith while belonging to a nullsec organization like Reikoku ?

The Faithful still have a bit of memory left, and the people behind Reikoku tried once to invade Providence, when it was still under Aralis leadership, and most other loyalist alliances blessing.
Sora Khamila
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2015-04-25 14:24:17 UTC
May I be allowed to represent Sanctus Amarria?
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#35 - 2015-04-25 18:01:47 UTC
Red Khalmer wrote:
Mashut'Mataari!

In a not so distant future Ushra'Khan will once again be back in Providience and claim what is rightfully ours!
You left your allies in Amarr for good and lost the contact to the empire. the allies you once had doesnt answer your calls for rally anymore, they are either busy with fighting us in the warzone or have turned their eyes elsewhere. The tides are turning.
The Oppression that is Amarr will be no more. The shackles of our people will be no more. the winds of change is coming!

Long live the matari people!


Since Ushra Kahn haven't yet managed to beat ragtag groups of pirates that collect a paycheck from the empress like us, then I have my doubts about your organizations ability to fight one as zealous and dedicated as CVA. Still, the Brutor in me wishes you good luck and good fights, and for the Matari people to be free of Amarrian influence.
Katerina Tzestu
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2015-04-25 23:46:26 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Please forgive me if I am understanding wrongly, but how a Faithful can criticize CVA about their Faith while belonging to a nullsec organization like Reikoku ?

The Faithful still have a bit of memory left, and the people behind Reikoku tried once to invade Providence, when it was still under Aralis leadership, and most other loyalist alliances blessing.


The Legion are, as you may know, mercenaries. However I speak not as a member of Reikoku or the Legion, but as a pilot who spent years as an officer and line member in one of the better 24th Imperial Crusade corporations, then alliances.

CVA has announced their intent to "save the warzone" before, and each time they have, they've spent time and effort creating infrastructure, and attempting to deal with the fact that they have many 24th IC corps as KOS, and each time they've made a token appearance at best, then run back to Providence.

I have little faith that their attempts at managing any situation are similarly comprised of grand speeches and open invitations, while anyone who attempts to actually work with them, like myself, get drawn into a bureaucratic mess where nothing gets done or changed, despite the change being beneficial solely to CVA.

As for the history of Reikoku, it is exactly that, history, and I was not a part of it , however I wish I was at least for the invasion of Providence.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2015-04-26 08:58:40 UTC
I was there too when CVA was asked countless times to intervene in the warzone. They did at first, to become as you say quickly aware that the Crusade itself was infested with KOS and pirate elements that conflicted with their RoE policies. So they progressively started to intervene only when really necessary (the last time I saw them doing so was hotdropping a Star Fraction capital fleet in Kamela, against which the Crusade was helpless).

At first, it implied to switch to delivery of weapons and material to loyalist corporations instead, which eventually stopped since they started to have their own issues to deal with (the fiasco of the -A- invasion of Providence among others). As far as I remember, they also felt more and more disgusted by the ungrateful stance given by most of the Crusade itself.

They eventually told most loyalists there to deal with their own dirty laundry before they could help again. Which nobody did, since purging the militia pretty much implied destroying it when the TLF was always on the verge of getting the upper hand in terms of system sovereignty.

In any case, maybe it was indeed best for them to stick to their field (Providence), while the Crusade sticked to theirs.

I sill have trouble to understand how someone can belittle the faith of an entity that attempts to bring NRDS policies, civilization, and prosperity to lawless Providence over the blooder and pirate infested Crusade of her... majesty.

I have been... 'officer of the line' in the Bleak Lands and Devoid too, for years. If officer of the line in a militia of a ragtag of freelance capsuleers getting lettres de marque from her majesty Jamyl I means anything to begin with.

All I can say is that CVA proved to have more Faith and honour by amarrian standards than most people in there.
Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#38 - 2015-04-29 09:44:52 UTC
Leaders have been notified...

His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex

Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#39 - 2015-04-29 17:05:26 UTC
I Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan III, high father of the Imperial Pharmacy, symbol of unchallenged victory, the world's most beloved hero, self proclaimed prophet, morninglord, golden mountain, carrier of the Heaven's light, teacher of pure faith, speaker of unquestioned truth, lion of the universe, vanquisher of all heretics, bane of the witches, the great miner, skilled industrialist, diplomat of the Silent Infinity and Ecumenical Patriarch of the Silent Infinity am intrested of taking part of this meeting.

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.

Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2015-04-29 19:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kithrus
Rorin Cutter wrote:

The question of course was asked, and yes, to be honest I do expect an an answer Cardinal Graelyn, whether in private chambers or in public from brother Kahar Dex.
The doings of CVA are not something to bandy about, and brother Kahar Dex has been back in CVA but three days, and has assumed that he speaks with some authority.
When he takes the time to speak externally in CVA's name then he should explain why he thinks he has the authority to do so.

To be very clear, there is no emergency that requires an “emergency” summit. It is always nice to have our brothers and sisters in Providence, I distrust the timing of this “announcement.” Having said that, If this summit does occur I am of course looking forward to seeing you all in providence.


While the faithful of CVA are exemplar of the faith they are often drowned out by the many members of heathen races who benefit from an Amarrian flag but pay only lip service to the ways.

We are only as strong as our weakest member as the saying goes. Our strength is our faith, without we are nothing so what does that make us to the weakest members?

Without the faith CVA may as well change its name or be replaced by any standard if friendly null sec alliance.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

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