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hisec suicide gank squads today versus 5 years ago
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Solecist Project
#21 - 2015-04-23 09:36:48 UTC
I haven't been suicide ganked in years ...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#22 - 2015-04-23 11:59:53 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture.






Also, your stuff, can.. oh wait.. this has been covered already. Enjoy that pic though.

aw, so cuteee
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#23 - 2015-04-23 12:07:19 UTC
I do miss the hulkageddon events. now it's just Burn Jita.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#24 - 2015-04-23 15:23:10 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I do miss the hulkageddon events. now it's just Burn Jita.


We could just do Burn Hulkageddon so we can come full circle. Use Hulks to suicide gank Catalysts in Jita.

Id watch the **** out of that.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-04-23 15:36:02 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture..


Shocked

Can... can I have one?

I'm sure the cat wont mind.
Sointu Luonnotar
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-04-23 15:52:21 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:


The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.

Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.


Which just goes to show that the self-entitled badasses of EVE get more epicly buttmad than any carebear ever could when their fun is being interrupted or their professions get shafted by patches. Lol
Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-04-23 16:01:44 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Move out of high sec? There are no High sec suicide squads there. Cool

+1 This is actually sums it up.


If you are in high sec and you got enough ISK in your cargo or mods you will get ganked at some point. And it makes no difference if you are in a battleship, a frigate or a freighter. It makes no difference if you got 1K or 100K EHP. Why? Because people can gank with so much ease and with no actual consequences atm. So if you stay in high sec you will have to deal with it eventually. Fun or not its here for now.

Some call it an exploit of game mechanics others gankin fun and some pvp for F1 monkeys. Its available to everyone however. Depends where you are looking at it from. Take your pick Lol
Solecist Project
#28 - 2015-04-23 16:13:20 UTC
Sointu Luonnotar wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:


The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.

Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.


Which just goes to show that the self-entitled badasses of EVE get more epicly buttmad than any carebear ever could when their fun is being interrupted or their professions get shafted by patches. Lol

They don't cry, wish anyone ill or death.

You seem to think it's fun when other people feel bad or angry.

Look ... we have a hater here.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-04-23 16:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Frostys Virpio
I'm clocking at 1 failed attempt and no success gank on me since I started playing.

Solecist Project wrote:
I haven't been suicide ganked in years ...


Yeah but you're Sol...
Solecist Project
#30 - 2015-04-23 16:21:30 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I'm clocking at 1 failed attempt and no success gank on me since I started playing.

Solecist Project wrote:
I haven't been suicide ganked in years ...


Yeah but you're Sol...

*kinks* (:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#31 - 2015-04-23 16:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
S3LICI3 wrote:
i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened?


This is pretty much a useless ramble, as you didn't describe WHAT changed that makes you not want to log in.

Well, things have changed in EVE, good and bad. The thing that probably changed and thus "caused" your boredom with it, however, is most likely YOU.. "Boredom" occurs when a person mistakenly blames the environment for what is actually more likely to be THEM responding to a set of internal mental or emotional factors (then blaming something external like EVE for it).

(Side note: another really interesting article related to this subject)

You aren't alone, people do it all day, there is a significant faction of this very forum's population who blame their boredom or lack of interest in the game on the game and thus (falsely) believe that if CCP changes something (like "add more content") then they will be ok. Actually, most MMOs thrive on the fact that people mistakenly blame their boredom on environmental factors, and get people to spend money in cash shops to unlock "content" to medicate the symptoms of that boredom (it's not "i want to win" that fuels the behavior like people believe, it's "I don't want to be bored and new shiny stuff that I can use to beat others thus getting bragging rights will help me not be bored").

It's yet another reason what EVE isn't for everyone. CCP doesn't introduce a lot of new real 'content', they rely on us to make our own. Those of us who are good at this, good at making our own fun in game, are probably not the adrenaline junky types in game or in real life. If you are the kind who is prone to "boredom", Then EVE might not be the right game for you. Lots of things people call "boring" in EVE I call "relaxing".

I do it a lot with PVE, trying new things like how to solo Drifters, how to solo a Blood Raider 10/10 (damn the guy who made that video who figured out something that I couldn't!), how to make more "isk per tick" in a null anomaly etc etc. Others do it with figuring out how to beat pvp ships with industrials or figuring out how to make mad isk with Cheap ships in dangerous low sec.. I've played EVE for going on 8 years now, and I have yet to be 'bored' with the game, which leads me to the brilliant observation below (as if an observation of the obvious can be brilliant lol):

People who get 'bored' in a rich situation like EVE Online have two things in common, they have low levels of both creativity and drive. They do the same things over and over (be it PVE, or PVP) because they are the types who like to do only the things they feel competent at, then blame the game for their boredom when the "boredom" comes from inside themselves.



TL;DR it's probably you dude.
Joe Atei
Aes Dei Asher
#32 - 2015-04-23 19:01:44 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
S3LICI3 wrote:
i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened?


This is pretty much a useless ramble, as you didn't describe WHAT changed that makes you not want to log in.

Well, things have changed in EVE, good and bad. The thing that probably changed and thus "caused" your boredom with it, however, is most likely YOU.. "Boredom" occurs when a person mistakenly blames the environment for what is actually more likely to be THEM responding to a set of internal mental or emotional factors (then blaming something external like EVE for it).

(Side note: another really interesting article related to this subject)

You aren't alone, people do it all day, there is a significant faction of this very forum's population who blame their boredom or lack of interest in the game on the game and thus (falsely) believe that if CCP changes something (like "add more content") then they will be ok. Actually, most MMOs thrive on the fact that people mistakenly blame their boredom on an environmental factors, and get people to spend money in cash shops to unlock "content" to medicate the symptoms of that boredom (it "i want to win" that fuels the behavior like people believe, it's "I don't want to be bored and new shiny stuff that I can use to beat others thus getting bragging rights will help me not be bored").

It's yet another reason what EVE isn't for everyone. CCP doesn't introduce a lot of new real 'content', they rely on us to make out own. Those of us who are good at this, good at making our own fun in game are probably not the adrenaline junky types in game or in real life. If you are the kind who is prone to "boredom", Then EVE might not be the right game for you. Lots of things people call"boring" in EVE I call "relaxing".

I do it a lot with PVE, trying new things like how to solo Drifters, how to solo a Blood Raider 10/10 (damn the guy who made that video who figured out something that I couldn't!), how to make more "isk per tick" in a null anomaly etc etc. Others do it with figuring out how to beat pvp ships with industrials or figuring out how to make mad isk with Cheap ships in dangerous low sec.. I've played EVE for going on 8 years now, and I have yet to be 'bored' with the game, which leads me to the brilliant observation below (as if an observation of the obvious can be brilliant lol):

People who get 'bored' in a rich situation like EVE Online have two things in common, they have low levels of both creativity and drive. They do the same things over and over (be it PVE, or PVP) because they are the types who like to do only the things they feel competent at, then blame the game for their boredom when the "boredom" comes from inside themselves.



TL;DR it's probably you dude.


Great post. Also, OP, if the game is boring because high sec got more safe, do something about it. BECOME the suicide ganker Twisted
Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#33 - 2015-04-23 19:54:37 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:

People who get 'bored' in a rich situation like EVE Online have two things in common, they have low levels of both creativity and drive. They do the same things over and over (be it PVE, or PVP) because they are the types who like to do only the things they feel competent at, then blame the game for their boredom when the "boredom" comes from inside themselves.


Cannot. Hit. Like. Enough.

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#34 - 2015-04-23 21:04:38 UTC
CAPITALS! ... is the answer.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#35 - 2015-04-23 21:22:43 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture..


Shocked

Can... can I have one?

I'm sure the cat wont mind.


You could get one, but it'd be just a platypus, they don't do much.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Raiz Nhell
PeregrineXII
#36 - 2015-04-24 00:32:33 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture..


Shocked

Can... can I have one?

I'm sure the cat wont mind.


You could get one, but it'd be just a platypus, they don't do much.



They can eat yabbies... and if you get a male one they can poison you...

But apart from that, they aren't a very interesting Big smile

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#37 - 2015-04-24 00:56:06 UTC
S3LICI3 wrote:
i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened?

Ok first: Miner! Calm down!

Highsec is a thing of the past. It's now called New Order Territory. Just make sure you follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct and you will be ok. Make sure you get a mining permit from your local New Order Agent.

Evil RatKid
Paranoid Loyd
#38 - 2015-04-24 01:39:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Raiz Nhell wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture..


Shocked

Can... can I have one?

I'm sure the cat wont mind.


You could get one, but it'd be just a platypus, they don't do much.



They can eat yabbies... and if you get a male one they can poison you...

But apart from that, they aren't a very interesting Big smile


Let's not forget about the "awww, it's sooooo cute" factor with the ladies (sorry Hengle). Can't be any less and I would imagine it would be more useful than a puppy.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#39 - 2015-04-24 01:54:42 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Let's not forget about the "awww, it's sooooo cute" factor with the ladies (sorry Hengle). Can't be any less and I would imagine it would be more useful than a puppy.

I am not ashamed of my reaction!
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-04-24 02:24:44 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
d0cTeR9 wrote:
Now it's a few per days, thanks to some pretty big nerfs to freighters apparently. Back then, no one ever imagined to suicide gank a freighter, and when they did... the freighter usually lived (concord was very quick in dealing with them back then).

This is actually completely backwards.

Freighters got an EHP reduction because they now have the ability to fit modules. If you tank a freighter they get more EHP than they used to. CONCORD response times also got faster, not slower and a number of ganking tactics got patched out of the game.

The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.

Freighters still tough, if they're tanked, mining barges have more EHP and CONCORD responds faster and is more effective than it used to be. There's also now no insurance payouts for ships lost while ganking.

Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.



Concord was instant death back then, and caused a lot of lag.

Freighter thing might be true, iv never flown one.

Been around since the beginning.
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