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[Eternal Crusade] yet another mmo gets wrecked.

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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1 - 2015-04-23 15:08:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalelmir Ahashion
I shared here in the past some info about a Warhammer 40k mmo in development called "Eternal Crusade".
It was planned to be "Space Marine" (the pc game) like third person shooter in single server EVE Online style open world maps and pvp oriented.
Also some pve in instanced areas versus tyranids.

Now a new FAQ was published today:

https://www.eternalcrusade.com/faq

and I see this:

1.
Quote:

Is this a single-server MMO?
Last year, we were aiming for a single server technology and one unique world. For launch we will offer a connected match experience simulating an open world. Everything is built in order to support the open world MMO experience as soon as the tech will be ready.
Partnerships with publishers we had to consider a business regions split. We might end up with a universe per business region, meaning one server for NA, one for EU, one for AS and one for RU.


2.
Quote:

Will the world be instanced?
The PvP gameplay of Eternal Crusade uses instances but each location is unique. . There will be some exceptions, for example the PvP missions will be duplicated, but this is not the general rule.

The continents will be built in order to support the future open world experience patch. In the meantime the world will be divided into small unique locations which will be played as matches. Only one match can happen at one given location in the world and the result of the match will change the world for everyone. The only exception will be the PVP missions which will be instanced.


so it's going to be "buffed" version of the space marine game instead. Also I was horrified to see they changed their core design of single server due to "Publishers"... and that's because in the past the former team manager told us on streams and on website they will not let publishers affect the design and development of the game.

RIP glorious 40k mmo :(

At least eve will always be here.


EDIT:
btw the new Senior Producer of the game is Nathan Richardsson, formerly of the Dust 514 team.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2015-04-23 15:33:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
please transfer thread
Done. Smile

This thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#3 - 2015-04-23 17:12:48 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:



EDIT:
btw the new Senior Producer of the game is Nathan Richardsson, formerly of the Dust 514 team.



You mean former eve executive produce ccp ovur?

Beyond that, it kinda sucks that only eve can do the single server mmo. its one of the things that makes eve great

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#4 - 2015-04-23 17:18:35 UTC
DaReaper wrote:



You mean former eve executive produce ccp ovur?


Same guy.

they basically did ninja update to the game FAQ with the changes and only after the shitstorm emereged they called him to calm down the folks on the forums,

Much forums pvp was engaged today but mostly I asked refund for my founder pack due to this reasons:

Quote:
1. Miguel (fromer senior producer) said publishers won't affect game design choices.
in the new faq they said due to publishers demand they will split the community to US/ASIA/RUS/EU zones with different communities.

2. They said there will be single server for all players.
in new faq they said it will be split.. see section 1.

3. They said there will be open world gameplay with instanced pve tyranids fights.
in the new faq they said all gameplay is instanced with NO open world at launch.

4. instead of properly publishing an article with twitch stream to explain the changes and give us a choice in respectable manner they did ninja update to the faq in shady way. then on the forums they basically said HTFU this is how it's going to be.. the door is over there.

5. In latest responses on the forums Nathan said they don't have the tech for all they promised us and even though PS2 (game) got the tech to work somehow how they wanted to he will not copy their design or do any partnership with them... excusing in some explanation it will be similar to copying WoW or something.

and more...

bottom line this is not the game I was looking for and I lost faith in bE team.


So it became space marine 1.5 :( shame shame.
Hoped for 40k game in eve online style environment.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2015-04-23 20:58:27 UTC
Good, good, Nathan doing great work for EVE even now, denying other game one server open world design. Cool

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2015-04-23 21:31:42 UTC
Right off the bat when learned that there would be no imperial guard (the real badasses of 40k) I was fully expecting this to happen.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#7 - 2015-04-23 22:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalelmir Ahashion
yes...
Their lack of imperial guard implementation is pretty annoying..
for every space marine there are millions or billions of imperial guards, not having them even as npc is just... bleh.

EDIT:
if yo uwish to watch the forum pvp fights -

http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/so-there-is-no-more-1-server-for-all.45211/
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2015-04-23 23:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Sad. Game design decisions being made by the publisher. In other words, game design more or less by meetings of market research analysts, CFOs, section VPs and people gunning to be a section VP.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#9 - 2015-04-23 23:53:13 UTC
I hope they don't refund you.

That will teach you right to prepay for games.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#10 - 2015-04-24 01:18:30 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Beyond that, it kinda sucks that only eve can do the single server mmo.
Anarchy Online is on a single serverP

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-04-24 20:18:26 UTC
Instanced and no imperial guard? I'll pass. Too bad, an open-world 40k game sounds great. Yay, EvE!

EvE security zones in pictures

EvE quick reference pdf

EvE links
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#12 - 2015-04-24 20:32:44 UTC
updates from today's twitch,

1. there will be zoned servers - > US / EU / RU / ASIA
2. you can't play against other people from other zones.. each zone is separated.
3. the game will be build as massive land mass > divided to small zone, each zone will have a fort surrounded by outposts.
each outpost and each for is different instance.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#13 - 2015-04-24 23:38:06 UTC
Not to derail, but this is kind of nice: Valve expands video game 'mod' market Basically, they're paying amateurs who create good Skyrim mods. o7

OK, back to topic.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#14 - 2015-04-24 23:40:39 UTC
I see what you did there...
and nop.. I can't make any video games and last time I made any mod it was Israel mod for civ 4 :)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#15 - 2015-04-25 03:38:10 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Instanced and no imperial guard? I'll pass. Too bad, an open-world 40k game sounds great. Yay, EvE!
Instances like missions, DED sites, et cetera?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-04-25 05:55:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Instanced and no imperial guard? I'll pass. Too bad, an open-world 40k game sounds great. Yay, EvE!
Instances like missions, DED sites, et cetera?


mm - nah...not entirely...players from the single-shard can still affect and interact with the players in at least some of those, but I see what you're saying. Smile

EvE security zones in pictures

EvE quick reference pdf

EvE links
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#17 - 2015-04-25 14:30:42 UTC
ok some updates there may be hope yet!

each regional server will be a continent on the meta map, this servers will be somehow connected.

each instance will be connected to the adjacent one but in future as they develop the tech the barriers between instances will be removed and turn into big areas.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#18 - 2015-04-25 21:10:44 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Instanced and no imperial guard? I'll pass. Too bad, an open-world 40k game sounds great. Yay, EvE!
Instances like missions, DED sites, et cetera?

when in a game an instance is created for you, others can not enter it in any way.

Eve's deadspace site can still be entered by the "non-invited."