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Catch cloaky frigates in null?
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Poarta Iadului
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-04-21 08:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Poarta Iadului
Not anymore. You just cannot get them, they are immune to anything.

If problems, an Astero will MWD cloaked back to the gate and you can do nothing about it. Decloaking is useless as they will surely tank, and webbing is also useless as you cannot lock them anyway. Same goes for a smart covert ops frigate.

Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.

Interceptors? OK, we may need them nullified, but tried catching one on a gate ever?

It seems that every single game mechanics related to this is going towards a null just like high sec. No PvP, no content. Everyone is running relics and warps away if anything.

So is this the EvE we want?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-04-21 09:08:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
oh an invisible covert operations ship thats hard to catch? working as intended you think because you camp a gate with a warp disruption bubble then you deserve to kill everything that passes?

so whats the your idea to counter your sabres?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

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Rogue Aspire
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#3 - 2015-04-21 13:00:32 UTC
I disagree. Maybe if your playing by yourself you have these issues however ceptors can be caught. Depends on how bad you want to elite pvp a paper airplane.

I know I lost a few ceptors to fast locking gate camps.... never just one person involved.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-04-21 13:11:23 UTC
Poarta Iadului wrote:
Not anymore. You just cannot get them, they are immune to anything.

If problems, an Astero will MWD cloaked back to the gate and you can do nothing about it. Decloaking is useless as they will surely tank, and webbing is also useless as you cannot lock them anyway. Same goes for a smart covert ops frigate.

Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.

Interceptors? OK, we may need them nullified, but tried catching one on a gate ever?

It seems that every single game mechanics related to this is going towards a null just like high sec. No PvP, no content. Everyone is running relics and warps away if anything.

So is this the EvE we want?

Ask Nbonga how to do it right.

... and indeed I like dictors trying to bubble my relic ceptor Lol

I'm my own NPC alt.
Arla Sarain
#5 - 2015-04-21 13:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Poarta Iadului wrote:

catching one on a gate ever?

No PvP, no content.
So is this the EvE we want?


Gates Online then?

Pretty sad gate camping is considered content and/or PvP. Irony is, if you say that a potential roaming gang could come through a gate, reality is the gate campers will warp off. Ergo, Gate campers are about just as risk averse as the people who fly cloakies and inties through bubbleable gates.

Remote Sebo a Keres if you want to catch things on gates.
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#6 - 2015-04-21 13:33:50 UTC
And if gate camps were "perfect" and u could catch anyone and everyone? Then there would be even less (or zero) traffic through your gate for ever and ever.

Gates were originally designed as conflict drivers by being choke points. Since then we have had warp to 0, mobile bubbles, 'dictors, jump capable ships and structures, bridges.

Tbh the old gate system is starting to look like a very tired and worn out excuse of a conflict driver.

The game needs better mechanisms to bring ships from many sides onto the same grid. I believe this is W.I.P.????

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#7 - 2015-04-21 19:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Samwise Everquest
Poarta Iadului wrote:
Not anymore. You just cannot get them, they are immune to anything.

If problems, an Astero will MWD cloaked back to the gate and you can do nothing about it. Decloaking is useless as they will surely tank, and webbing is also useless as you cannot lock them anyway. Same goes for a smart covert ops frigate.

Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.

Interceptors? OK, we may need them nullified, but tried catching one on a gate ever?

It seems that every single game mechanics related to this is going towards a null just like high sec. No PvP, no content. Everyone is running relics and warps away if anything.

So is this the EvE we want?


I can think of plenty of content involving pvp in Nullsec that doesn't involve chasing cloaky explorers. That being said, it is odd that I am able to catch them in highsec without the use of bubbles or SMARTBOMBS. God, I am so good at this game.

also nice 0 to 2 kill-death-ratio. Clearly gatecamping isn't working out for you.

Pras Phil.
Syrilian
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-04-21 19:42:53 UTC
Poarta Iadului wrote:


So is this the EvE we want?


Yup.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-04-21 21:32:08 UTC
Samwise Everquest wrote:
Poarta Iadului wrote:
Not anymore. You just cannot get them, they are immune to anything.

If problems, an Astero will MWD cloaked back to the gate and you can do nothing about it. Decloaking is useless as they will surely tank, and webbing is also useless as you cannot lock them anyway. Same goes for a smart covert ops frigate.

Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.

Interceptors? OK, we may need them nullified, but tried catching one on a gate ever?

It seems that every single game mechanics related to this is going towards a null just like high sec. No PvP, no content. Everyone is running relics and warps away if anything.

So is this the EvE we want?


I can think of plenty of content involving pvp in Nullsec that doesn't involve chasing cloaky explorers. That being said, it is odd that I am able to catch them in highsec without the use of bubbles or SMARTBOMBS. God, I am so good at this game.

also nice 0 to 2 kill-death-ratio. Clearly gatecamping isn't working out for you.


It's not hard in highsec at all... when they are afk autopiloting. Nullsec I don't see that type of travel very often and when I do it is just as easy as highsec.

Problem is the OP wants an easy button... perhaps goto highsec?
Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
#10 - 2015-04-23 14:58:01 UTC
I don't know why you'd think there's an Easy Button in High Sec since you can't even drop a bubble to keep 'em from warping off. Suicide with an Arty Thrasher while they're AFKing MAYBE, but still.

OP, the Heron got away from you because you didn't have him full tackled. Scram + web is still a necessity to prevent gate crashing as it has since... I don't know, EVE Online added star gates.

Read the guide, fit Nbonga's Sabre, and go shootz dudes in Sov Null.

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#11 - 2015-04-23 19:19:02 UTC
people can kill those even in highsec so why cant you do it in 0.0? maybe you are using wrong tactics
Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#12 - 2015-04-24 16:45:55 UTC
Solomar Espersei wrote:
I don't know why you'd think there's an Easy Button in High Sec since you can't even drop a bubble to keep 'em from warping off. Suicide with an Arty Thrasher while they're AFKing MAYBE, but still.

OP, the Heron got away from you because you didn't have him full tackled. Scram + web is still a necessity to prevent gate crashing as it has since... I don't know, EVE Online added star gates.

Read the guide, fit Nbonga's Sabre, and go shootz dudes in Sov Null.


nice lank. thanks.

Pras Phil.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2015-04-24 16:53:02 UTC
Poarta Iadului wrote:
Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.


You're just no good sabre pilot it seems. Skill yourself instead of complaining.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-04-24 17:25:17 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Poarta Iadului wrote:
Heck, I tried catching a Heron on the gate with a Sabre and he just MWD out of all three bubbles.


You're just no good sabre pilot it seems. Skill yourself instead of complaining.


PROTIP: Scrams turn off MWD, and can be easily fitted to any dictor.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.