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Anyone dual-box with two monitors?

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JonnyRandom
#21 - 2011-12-26 00:06:48 UTC
You say I'll need to have both monitors run the same resolution? That could be a problem... my current monitor only supports 1680x1050
Endeavour Starfleet
#22 - 2011-12-26 00:11:20 UTC
I thought it was clients need to be similar for best performance. Different display size is just annoying when you move your mouse back and forth.
Theodemir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-12-26 00:21:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodemir
ATI 6870 + two monitors (1920*1080 || 1680*1050) runs two eve clients nicely with high detail and low AA in window mode for each (interchange effortlessly). However I don't have walk in station view as it takes a while to load both.

Been doing this for the better part of a year so it's definitely doable and others above have said you'll want to use more! I've got three currently Sad
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-12-26 00:22:04 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
JonnyRandom wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:
Yes it can be done, and if you're using SLI it's actually easier than expected. You just set the second client to the second GPU and it will put itself on the second monitor. It won;t only use the second GPU, both will render both, it's just in game you can use fixed window and they will go to the appropriate screens.

Now, it is far better to use 2 computers and a program like Synergy or Input Director. Just so much better, and no need to click back to each client to make it active and accept commands again.


Synergy? Input Director? What do those do?


They're both Keyboard/Mouse switch software. You set up one computer as the master, and any others as clients. Only the Master needs a keyboard and mouse. Those two programs(there's others too) basically allow you to move the mouse offscreen to another computer, like multiple monitors, but with multiple computers.

I normally run this character on my OP desktop on a 30" Dell, and my alt account is run @ 1920x1080 on my equally OP gaming desknote, and I use Synergy or Input Director to control both with one keyboard and mouse.


WIndows allows that? or do you have to trick windows by having the software make a ghost display?


Windows has allowed remote control software for practically forever. This is almost the same thing really. It just transmits the mouse movements and key presses over the network. In fact, I normally control 3 computers with it, not just two.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-12-26 00:41:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Hauling Hal
I used to run 2 clients at different resolutions, by having 2 seperate Eve installations.
JonnyRandom
#26 - 2011-12-26 01:20:03 UTC
To those of you that have multiple monitors on your desk, how do you set them up? I don't have enough room for two monitors side by side, so I went looking for a vertical stand to put them one on top the other... and the only one I found is at $250 which is more than the monitor itself! Shocked
K Suri
Doomheim
#27 - 2011-12-26 01:42:25 UTC  |  Edited by: K Suri
JonnyRandom wrote:
I want to do lvl4 missions with two accounts at once. I'm wondering how feasible that would be to keep alt+tabbing back and forth, so thought of maybe getting a second monitor? My system is more than capable of running two clients at once, but I've never used two monitors before and wanna know how exactly would it work? Would I be able to seamlessly move my mouse from one eve client on monitor 1, to the other eve client on monitor 2?

I use 2 fairly old GT 8600 cards with a monitor on each. I run 4 accounts with options turned down on an old AMD 64 dual core with no probs.

fps >= 35 on each. Screens are only 19" and res is only 1024 x 768 though. Easy mission rig with 3 x dps and a salvager.

EDIT: Monitors will sit side by side on most "standard" computer desks or hang 'em on yer wall. You are talking LCD yeah :)
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-12-26 02:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Darren Corley
JonnyRandom wrote:
To those of you that have multiple monitors on your desk, how do you set them up? I don't have enough room for two monitors side by side, so I went looking for a vertical stand to put them one on top the other... and the only one I found is at $250 which is more than the monitor itself! Shocked


Try looking at monoprice.com

And this is how I fit them on mine: My Desk
Flakey Foont
#29 - 2011-12-26 03:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
JonnyRandom wrote:
To those of you that have multiple monitors on your desk, how do you set them up? I don't have enough room for two monitors side by side, so I went looking for a vertical stand to put them one on top the other... and the only one I found is at $250 which is more than the monitor itself! Shocked



I use this: Dual Monitor Mount

You can arrange the screens most any way you might wish,
Saskieo Ka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2011-12-26 04:31:18 UTC
This is what everyone should dream/work towards :>

http://76.74.159.78/P3140543.jpg


Personally I use two, a 19 and 22" and they easily fit on my desk. I've had dual since before Eve came out. I plan on soon running 2x 25" and someday 3. Can't wait for Taxmas!
Sassums
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#31 - 2011-12-26 05:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Sassums
Was just going to post about this:

I currently have a machine that is unable to run EVE on multiple screens - the minute I drag the game onto the second screen, the FPS drops significantly to a point where you are like a fast paced slide show. It also happens when I launch the second account onto the second screen. According to the GM's or Tech GM's they said it was Windows XP being unable to support the ability to run across both screens. One is a 22" and the other a 24". I tried running the game at the same resolution on both screens and different resolutions, and finally tried running the game across both screens using their different max resolutions, and then the max resolution for the smaller screen - none of the above worked.

Current specs are:
Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz
4GB RAM (3.25 useable due to XP 32bit).
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB)

Not sure what the issue is, the graphics card is more than capable of handing the instances of EVE. Has EVE become more CPU demanding rather than GPU? The ram is low I know, but it should be able to handle it (I can dual boot no problem, triple boxing starts to run into issues)

I plan on upgrading this PC:

Intel i7-2700k at 3.5Ghz - Turboboost up to 3.9Ghz
16GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB) - Same graphics card from old computer


The intel motherboard that comes with the CPU has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot or I can set it to run 2 PCI-E 8.0 slots in SLI. My question is - whats better?

1 560ti at 16.0 or 2 at 8.0 (I'm fuzzy in that area whats the difference between 16.0 and 8.0)?

Or would it just be best to stick with one card, but find something better than the 560ti?

I want to be able to run 2 instances on 2 separate screens at the same time, and be able to switch back and fourth while using both of them.

I also want to be able to dual box a third account on one of the screens.

Any help is appreciated.
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-12-26 05:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Darren Corley
Sassums wrote:
Was just going to post about this:

I currently have a machine that is unable to run EVE on multiple screens - the minute I drag the game onto the second screen, the FPS drops significantly to a point where you are like a fast paced slide show. It also happens when I launch the second account onto the second screen. According to the GM's or Tech GM's they said it was Windows XP being unable to support the ability to run across both screens. One is a 22" and the other a 24". I tried running the game at the same resolution on both screens and different resolutions, and finally tried running the game across both screens using their different max resolutions, and then the max resolution for the smaller screen - none of the above worked.

Current specs are:
Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz
4GB RAM (3.25 useable due to XP 32bit).
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB)

Not sure what the issue is, the graphics card is more than capable of handing the instances of EVE. Has EVE become more CPU demanding rather than GPU? The ram is low I know, but it should be able to handle it (I can dual boot no problem, triple boxing starts to run into issues)

I plan on upgrading this PC:

Intel i7-2700k at 3.5Ghz - Turboboost up to 3.9Ghz
16GB DDR3 Ram
Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB) - Same graphics card from old computer


The intel motherboard that comes with the CPU has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot or I can set it to run 2 PCI-E 8.0 slots in SLI. My question is - whats better?

1 560ti at 16.0 or 2 at 8.0 (I'm fuzzy in that area whats the difference between 16.0 and 8.0)?

Or would it just be best to stick with one card, but find something better than the 560ti?

I want to be able to run 2 instances on 2 separate screens at the same time, and be able to switch back and fourth while using both of them.

I also want to be able to dual box a third account on one of the screens.

Any help is appreciated.


Honestly? If that machine is just for gaming, the i7 is a waste of money, as is going past 8GB of RAM.

About your issue, I can't say honestly. I haven't used XP in years. Not on my systems anyways.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#33 - 2011-12-26 06:06:08 UTC
I run two 23" Samsung monitors out of one GTX 560. 2 clients, one set to left display, the other to the right, both on fixed window setting. You seamlessly move from one client to the other without any alt-tabbing/minimizing etc. Once you have two screens you won't go back. Very little technical know how required as everything is pretty much plug & play.

Damn nature, you scary!
Endeavour Starfleet
#34 - 2011-12-26 06:12:16 UTC
You dont need 16GB 8 is fine for 3 accounts.

i7 is overkill. That is a very nice turbo but you can get away with a good high end i5 and save a little. The extra oomph EVE wont be using for years and by then the i7 will be obsolete compared to 22nm models.

I run two clients on an ATI 4770 (4850 equivalent) if I run both at full res it will choke some but not terrible. And that is mainly due to the 512mb of ram when 1GB is needed. Running 3 with that monster of a card and a good i5 and 8gb of ram ought to be easy in my opinion. No need for SLI
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2011-12-26 06:14:58 UTC
Two monitors is a good idea, I run two 20".
However, make sure the monitors are the same size and resolution, if not you risk headaches.

Also make sure your video card can handle two screens, aswell as two clients in the heat of battle, I know this used to cook my little 9800GT. If you have a 9800GT and below, be aware that they do run hot, and this is normal, even temps as high as 100 degrees centigrade, though if it gets that high, you need to change something.

Personally, I'd shop on eBay or someplace and get a GT series, 460GTX can more than handle 2 clients. I normally play with three and have no issues.


-Pete

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If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-12-26 06:22:28 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
You dont need 16GB 8 is fine for 3 accounts.

i7 is overkill. That is a very nice turbo but you can get away with a good high end i5 and save a little. The extra oomph EVE wont be using for years and by then the i7 will be obsolete compared to 22nm models.

I run two clients on an ATI 4770 (4850 equivalent) if I run both at full res it will choke some but not terrible. And that is mainly due to the 512mb of ram when 1GB is needed. Running 3 with that monster of a card and a good i5 and 8gb of ram ought to be easy in my opinion. No need for SLI


More like the only oomph the i7 has over an i5 is really just HyperThreading. And even if a game could use more than 4 cores it would be a bad idea to let it use HT cores. So there's really no point to it unless you use the computer for things beyond games, like I use my 12 Core machine for.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#37 - 2011-12-26 06:49:31 UTC
One of my monitors is 1680x1050, the other 1920x1080, no problem. Just copy your eve client so you have 2 with different resolutions, call one "right" and one "left".

Damn nature, you scary!
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#38 - 2011-12-26 09:14:19 UTC
I do. Once you go dual monitor, you can't go back, ever. Believe me, it's like a bad drug.

Ps, this is mine: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6112/251220110071.jpg

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Aineko Macx
#39 - 2011-12-26 09:14:36 UTC
Between getting two monitors or one larger screen I went with the latter.
I now have a 27" (2560x1440) and occasionally run two clients side by side.
With a a 30" monitor (2560x1600) you could run 4 clients at once side by side @ 1280x768.

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Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2011-12-26 09:15:54 UTC
Riley Moore wrote:
I do. Once you go dual monitor, you can't go back, ever. Believe me, it's like a bad drug.

Ps, this is mine: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6112/251220110071.jpg


Dude, gief that room. Would work well with the 2 ovens I have that go by the name of computers.