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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
Hell's Kitchen.
#181 - 2015-04-14 17:29:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:


No, the person that needs to provide remedy is the person you contract with. They then need to persue the 3rd party that did criminal damage to them, It is not the person who contracted the middle man (as an agent to provide a service) to persue the criminal for damages.


This is what entitlement looks like folks.


Yeah because victims pursue criminals all the time, compensation also comes from the criminal once caught

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Jenshae Chiroptera
#182 - 2015-04-14 17:31:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Lan Wang wrote:
Yeah because victims pursue criminals all the time, compensation also comes from the criminal once caught
It won't be long until the troll starts blaming CCP for wearing a short skirt and deserving it.

Edit: I sense a distrubance in the force.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

CCP Falcon
#183 - 2015-04-14 17:46:18 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Ecklectrix wrote:
As it stands now, there is no indication of how CCP intend to make restitution to those that were affected.


Okay, so to bring your trolling to an end in this thread, I'll be super direct:

We don't intend to make restitution for the effects of a DDoS attack that was completely out of our control.

After almost 10 pages of angry and inconsiderate posting, this is fair warning that if you persist in trolling in this thread, you'll be subject to the same forum rules as everyone else, and will be reprimanded as such.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Ecklectrix
#184 - 2015-04-14 17:46:41 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:


No, the person that needs to provide remedy is the person you contract with. They then need to persue the 3rd party that did criminal damage to them, It is not the person who contracted the middle man (as an agent to provide a service) to persue the criminal for damages.


This is what entitlement looks like folks.


Yeah because victims pursue criminals all the time, compensation also comes from the criminal once caught



No compensation is not paid, damages are paid by the criminal. (there is a difference)

And that still would not resolve the work that the other party was contracted to do.

The vendor compensates the equity provider, then makes a claim on insurance which covers their expenses. In the mean time, the insurance company is usually the one who either decides to persue the criminal for damages, or if it's not financially viable, to let the matter pass. The vendor is still at some point obligated to make whole the equity provider. If they are unable to do so, they then are in breach of trust, and things only go downhill from there for the vendor (in this case CCP is the vendor, or "seller")

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
Hell's Kitchen.
#185 - 2015-04-14 17:48:07 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:


No, the person that needs to provide remedy is the person you contract with. They then need to persue the 3rd party that did criminal damage to them, It is not the person who contracted the middle man (as an agent to provide a service) to persue the criminal for damages.


This is what entitlement looks like folks.


Yeah because victims pursue criminals all the time, compensation also comes from the criminal once caught



No compensation is not paid, damages are paid by the criminal. (there is a difference)

And that still would not resolve the work that the other party was contracted to do.

The vendor compensates the equity provider, then makes a claim on insurance which covers their expenses. In the mean time, the insurance company is usually the one who either decides to persue the criminal for damages, or if it's not financially viable, to let the matter pass. The vendor is still at some point obligated to make whole the equity provider. If they are unable to do so, they then are in breach of trust, and things only go downhill from there for the vendor (in this case CCP is the vendor, or "seller")


Ok lets just leave it at that

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#186 - 2015-04-14 17:53:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nat Silverguard
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
As it stands now, there is no indication of how CCP intend to make restitution to those that were affected.


Okay, so to bring your trolling to an end in this thread, I'll be super direct:

We don't intend to make restitution for the effects of a DDoS attack that was completely out of our control.

After almost 10 pages of angry and inconsiderate posting, this is fair warning that if you persist in trolling in this thread, you'll be subject to the same forum rules as everyone else, and will be reprimanded as such.


thank you! o7

Edit: i'll double dare this dude, to bring it to the legal courts and fight for his restitutions! Lol

Just Add Water

Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#187 - 2015-04-14 17:56:45 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
As it stands now, there is no indication of how CCP intend to make restitution to those that were affected.


Okay, so to bring your trolling to an end in this thread, I'll be super direct:

We don't intend to make restitution for the effects of a DDoS attack that was completely out of our control.

After almost 10 pages of angry and inconsiderate posting, this is fair warning that if you persist in trolling in this thread, you'll be subject to the same forum rules as everyone else, and will be reprimanded as such.


Hashtag FALCON PUNCH
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#188 - 2015-04-14 17:58:34 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
As it stands now, there is no indication of how CCP intend to make restitution to those that were affected.


Okay, so to bring your trolling to an end in this thread, I'll be super direct:

We don't intend to make restitution for the effects of a DDoS attack that was completely out of our control.

After almost 10 pages of angry and inconsiderate posting, this is fair warning that if you persist in trolling in this thread, you'll be subject to the same forum rules as everyone else, and will be reprimanded as such.


A wild CCP Falcon appears.

The internet lawyer is slain.

And there was much rejoicing!

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Paranoid Loyd
#189 - 2015-04-14 18:04:35 UTC
Lol

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Ecklectrix
#190 - 2015-04-14 18:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ecklectrix
Where is this actual post from CCP Falcon? All I see is someone "quoting" it.
Ah nm its nearer the top. I missed it.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A

Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#191 - 2015-04-14 18:31:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Ecklectrix wrote:
Where is this actual post from CCP Falcon? All I see is someone "quoting" it.
Ah nm its nearer the top. I missed it.


Damn, you got knocked down so hard your vision is imparied? Falcon needs to get a License for that punch of his. Geeze

Twisted
Jenshae Chiroptera
#192 - 2015-04-14 18:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Remember to apply to the corporation "Interstellar Nuclear Penguins" in game, so that you too can enjoy even more fun and adventure! Twisted

(Amusing little trick that I saw CCP Falcon's post incoming) Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#193 - 2015-04-14 18:56:22 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
Ecklectrix wrote:
Where is this actual post from CCP Falcon? All I see is someone "quoting" it.
Ah nm its nearer the top. I missed it.


We all had the same idea at the same time to quote the same thing that we assumed CCP Falcon would write, just like we all must have read the EULA and TOS incorrectly, but you got it right.

Or maybe you're still not reading clearly before you post.

Occam's Razor.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#194 - 2015-04-14 19:21:19 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:
Where is this actual post from CCP Falcon? All I see is someone "quoting" it.
Ah nm its nearer the top. I missed it.

anyone who wants to help send this guy to jita should help us invade delve :sun:
Dradis Aulmais
Serious Non-stop Espionage and Kidnapping
#195 - 2015-04-14 20:31:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
Anyone else got bingo?

I hit

"I know the law"
"Rawr I want ... Cuz CCP ****** up"
"I'm right your a troll"
"Everyone should shut up and listen to me"
"Surprise a right answer I'm to dumb to get"


EDIT: IF Falcon decides to post the legal team email, i will personally endorse his man card and certify that it shall never be revoked

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Ecklectrix
#196 - 2015-04-15 07:21:04 UTC
The thing is guys, I don't give a flying toss what you think of me or my complaint.
In less than a week you'll be on to bullying your next victim, and gang stalking and mobbing someone else. This thread and my comments, and your comments will fade into obscurity and maybe at a bbq in 5 years time you'll be all like oh yeah remember that time....I seriously doubt it will even make your annual bbq.

In more than 7 years of playing eve, these are my only posts.
This was posted because it is not particularly fair that paying customers should have to bear the cost of CCP being attacked by 3rd parties. It's not fair the 3rd party exists at all and seeks to disrupt their business, but it sure as hell isn't my fault.

In fact it seems to me the DDOS attacks are in direct response to policy changes made recently by CCP. These policy changes (which I happen to agree with for the record) make the game environment better, but have obviously had additional unforseen consequences by alienating people that have decided to take illegal action against CCP. Again, not my fault, and yet the money I pay to CCP is now affected as a result.

It is also not great that it takes days to get a response when all that was required was a simple statement from someone in an official capacity. In addition their support ticket system not working.

I can see you are all celebrating and dancing around, and this is the kind of behaviour I expect from the eve community. Just explain to me how you consider that to be acceptable behaviour?

I just wonder how far you will push someone else with less thick skin than I have?

Go about your day, by tomorrow you will forget I even exist.


"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A

Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#197 - 2015-04-15 07:35:58 UTC
Ecklectrix wrote:
The thing is guys, I don't give a flying toss what you think of me or my complaint.


So stop posting and biomass your character because GOD DAMN son.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#198 - 2015-04-15 07:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Lies.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't nonsensically keep posting and argueing on
a public board about something you have no chance of getting.

You are agenda posting. You are doing this intentionally.
No one sane would keep behaving like that.
No one sane would keep needing to tell others how he deserves something,
completely ignoring that there is no way posting here will get you anything.

The sane person would not post at all and instead go the route that's intended.



You are nothing more than Fake and you know damn well that GD is full of
unreasonable people who can not see how they are being manipulated and played.
  • All incoming connection attempts are being blocked. If you want to speak to me you will find me either in Hek local, you can create a contract or make a thread about it in General Discussions. I will call you back. -
Ecklectrix
#199 - 2015-04-15 07:53:45 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Ecklectrix wrote:
The thing is guys, I don't give a flying toss what you think of me or my complaint.


So stop posting and biomass your character because GOD DAMN son.


I am not your son.

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A

Ecklectrix
#200 - 2015-04-15 07:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ecklectrix
Eve Solecist wrote:
Lies.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't nonsensically keep posting and argueing on
a public board about something you have no chance of getting.

You are agenda posting. You are doing this intentionally.
No one sane would keep behaving like that.
No one sane would keep needing to tell others how he deserves something,
completely ignoring that there is no way posting here will get you anything.

The sane person would not post at all and instead go the route that's intended.



You are nothing more than Fake and you know damn well that GD is full of
unreasonable people who can not see how they are being manipulated and played.



Another fine example of the sort of posting that is selectively allowed when it suits.

This is your professional medical opinion is it Dr.?

"#Falcon_Punch" Justifying Bullying by CCP Staff since it's inception.

Exhibit A