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Jake Kreuger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-04-14 13:03:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Kreuger
Hi, Ive always wanted to try PvP In a battleship and ill normally be in a small gang and was wondering if this for would work well enough? Thanks.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Scorpion Navy Issue: PvP]
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Empty

Stasis Webifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
100MN Microwarpdrive II
Domination Warp Disruptor
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Torpedo Launcher II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II


Hobgoblin II
Vespa EC-600
Jake Kreuger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-04-14 13:11:35 UTC
I also have this fit.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, PvP]
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Co-Processor II

Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
100MN Microwarpdrive I
Target Painter II

Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I




Hobgoblin II
Hammerhead II
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-04-14 13:55:33 UTC
Did you buy the scorp navy already?
Rear Admiral Barrington
17eme Chasseurs a Cheval
#4 - 2015-04-14 17:12:06 UTC
These fits demonstrate that you're not ready to fly this ship.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-04-14 18:09:13 UTC
small gang and battleship doesn't really work

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2015-04-14 18:41:36 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
small gang and battleship doesn't really work


They do, just not this way.
Jake Kreuger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-04-14 18:56:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Kreuger
No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2015-04-14 21:20:31 UTC
Jake Kreuger wrote:
No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually.


Ok well dont.

What you want is a raven, much cheaper and better suited as a starter. I'll cook you up a fit after the OP I'm on is done.
Jake Kreuger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-04-14 21:34:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jake Kreuger wrote:
No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually.


Ok well dont.

What you want is a raven, much cheaper and better suited as a starter. I'll cook you up a fit after the OP I'm on is done.


That would be brilliant. Thanks very much, apreciate it.
Conflict Engaged
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-04-14 23:03:13 UTC
You shouldn't really be using a Battleship for solo or small gang PvP if you're new to PvP, especially not blingy ones. Also, you should never have an empty Mid or Low slot. Sometimes I argue that missing out on High slots is silly, also, but it depends the ship and what you're doing. I would highly recommended starting with Frigates and Destroyers, maybe even Cruisers if you're keen to blow some ISK in the learning process. Feel free to contact me in-game for ship fitting advice, and any general help on PvP.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2015-04-15 01:04:41 UTC
[Raven, Raven fit]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-04-15 02:41:39 UTC
So youknow, your first mistake was the torpedos
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#13 - 2015-04-15 05:27:33 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
So youknow, your first mistake was the torpedos

My vote is for the empty low slot.

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Claud Tiberius
#14 - 2015-04-15 06:25:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
[Raven, Raven fit]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better.

Don't let people dictate on what weapon system you should use. If you know you're fighting small, medium or large ships then you should fit appropriately. Only though knowledge and experience can you find out how to do that for yourself.

With that said, most players fly around in Small/Medium sized ships usually with a lot of speed and/or dps (with the exception of fleets).


That NavScorpion fit is good (assuming you have fleet support) but like others have said, if your new to roaming, it's best to fly something cheaper.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Jake Kreuger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-04-15 07:30:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
[Raven, Raven fit]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better.


Thanks man. Lookin forward to it.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#16 - 2015-04-16 21:45:42 UTC
Honestly if you want to invest the money in a Faction Battleship that uses Missiles, just get a Rattlesnake, it is better and cheaper than both the Navy Scorpion and Raven (except in damage application, but that is only with Missiles, you still have Drones).

If you want to stay cheap, the Raven fit above works fine. Could also consider a dual XL ASB fit for no Logi fights (really hard to fit though).
Conflict Engaged
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-04-17 23:16:44 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Honestly if you want to invest the money in a Faction Battleship that uses Missiles, just get a Rattlesnake, it is better and cheaper than both the Navy Scorpion and Raven (except in damage application, but that is only with Missiles, you still have Drones).

If you want to stay cheap, the Raven fit above works fine. Could also consider a dual XL ASB fit for no Logi fights (really hard to fit though).

Ignore this guy.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#18 - 2015-04-19 22:26:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Ignore this guy.

The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Conflict Engaged
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-04-19 22:57:54 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Ignore this guy.

The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots.

Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-04-19 23:27:43 UTC
Conflict Engaged wrote:
And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?


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