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Webbing freighter and instawarp
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Omacki
Not Just Another Corporation
#1 - 2015-04-09 23:03:43 UTC
I have read all the previous threads on this subject and have come away with this:

1. Your freighter jumps through a gate and gets to the other side
2. Your freighter hits align to the gate or station it wants to jump to
3. In the meantime your alt (in the same corp) who was waiting on the side of the gate the freighter appeared on, locks on to the freighter and waits for the freighter to build up some speed
4. The alt hits them with all the webbers they have on board
5. The freighter hits jump and jumps nearly instantly to the next gate or station

The alt is flying a Condor with (2) 60%, (1) 55% and 1mn microwarp drive (cheap enough to be a throw away when protecting a 10 billion isk cargo.

I have tested the technique and it cuts down the warp time dramatically.

It would seem that if a ganker locks onto the freighter and webs it, it would help the freighter to warp even faster since they couldn't really web it til it did build up some speed. Would that be true?

Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-04-09 23:32:55 UTC
Yes.

But gankers will rarely attack you on the gate if you are in a freighter, they will bump you out of range of the gate guns first. That and anyone who knows what they are doing wouldn't even have a web fit.

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Cartheron Crust
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#3 - 2015-04-10 01:05:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Cartheron Crust
Iirc you don't even need all those steps. Just hit "warp to" with freighter. As you drop gatecloak your alt locks and webs, with 2-3 webs you should instawarp.

If you want, upgrade to something with a longer range web (helps with constellation and regional gates). Hyena would be ideal, fast align/warp, good scan res and long range web. On shorter warps your biggest enemy will be the weapons timer (1 minute) preventing your alt from jumping to the next system.
Violet Crumble
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2015-04-10 08:30:00 UTC
Cartheron Crust wrote:
On shorter warps your biggest enemy will be the weapons timer (1 minute) preventing your alt from jumping to the next system.

Yes, but even that rarely happens in my experience. The warp speed of freighters is low, so most of the time I find my webber's timer runs out just as I load grid.

With 3 webs, I begin warp within about half a web cycle.

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#5 - 2015-04-10 15:14:04 UTC
Fit a Higgs Anchor Rig on the freighter and use the webs. I think you find the results are rather awesome.
Omacki
Not Just Another Corporation
#6 - 2015-04-10 16:17:29 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Fit a Higgs Anchor Rig on the freighter and use the webs. I think you find the results are rather awesome.


I'm using a Fenrir that has no rig slots.
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2015-04-10 16:46:56 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Fit a Higgs Anchor Rig on the freighter and use the webs. I think you find the results are rather awesome.

Ugh

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#8 - 2015-04-10 20:40:49 UTC
Oh, that's right. They gave them low slots instead. People shoulda stayed with the rig option.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#9 - 2015-04-13 10:46:41 UTC
You don't need to 'align' the freighter. Hit warp from the start.

Don't use a frigate as a webber. Rapier or Ashimmu.

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Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#10 - 2015-04-15 09:37:01 UTC
Your webbing friend does not have to be in the same corp either. Accept a duel challenge from your friend with the freighter pilot. As long as you jump within the time frame, there will be no need to re-apply for a duel throughout your journey.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#11 - 2015-04-15 15:18:26 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
You don't need to 'align' the freighter. Hit warp from the start.

Don't use a frigate as a webber. Rapier or Ashimmu.


Actually a Daredevil is a good option for this.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#12 - 2015-04-15 16:13:09 UTC
just stop flying with 10b cargo
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#13 - 2015-04-16 00:38:32 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
You don't need to 'align' the freighter. Hit warp from the start.

Don't use a frigate as a webber. Rapier or Ashimmu.


Actually a Daredevil is a good option for this.


Hyena is best IMO, warp speed, lock time, long range webs for covering regional gates and you can just slap 3 webs on it to get almost the same effect as a 90% Daredevil web.
Paranoid Loyd
#14 - 2015-04-16 02:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
I think his point may have been it is pretty easy to gank a frig that is not paying attention and/or not moving, you are multi-boxing after all and it's easy to get distracted for a second and it only takes a second to pop a frig with the right ship. Using a cruiser buys you quite a bit of buffer. So if you are going to use a frig make sure it is moving quickly at all times.

It is of course a very low probability anyone will be prepared to gank your webber but there are people who are prepared do it especially if you are carrying stupid amounts in your cargo and going through a major pipe.

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O'nira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-04-21 02:54:05 UTC
use a hyena or a rapier or anything with web range bonus unless you want to either be figuring out where you are on the other side and burning to your freighter or just hoping for the best and decloak the freighter and burn for it.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#16 - 2015-04-22 12:50:58 UTC
I use a NCDOT. fleet fit tanky loki with twin faction webs, they could try to gank it and fail miserably..

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GordonO
BURN EDEN
#17 - 2015-05-04 19:44:18 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
You don't need to 'align' the freighter. Hit warp from the start.

Don't use a frigate as a webber. Rapier or Ashimmu.


Hyena is a quicker train than a rapier and has a longer range bonus to webs than an ashimu.

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