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Making money at low levels for newbies?

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ISD Decoy
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ISD Alliance
#41 - 2015-04-09 21:51:37 UTC
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2015-04-09 22:19:56 UTC
Payne Saissore wrote:
I am fairly new, only been playing a few weeks total. I was wondering what are some good ways to make isk at lower levels?

There are no levels in this game only skill points. Due to that fact what ever makes isk at higher skill points in most cases makes isk at lower skill points only the skill points help you do if faster and easier.

Missions can be a good way to get your feet wet as they will teach you some basics about ship piloting and applying and avoiding damage. You most likely will make more isk running level 3s than running level 4's until you can fly a T2 fit battle ship pretty well. The isk in missions is in the LP so run them fast and pick your corp well.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2015-04-09 22:25:35 UTC
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
there isn't any holy grail for new players.

Notice how he says new player here not new character. I think it is important to point out that your understanding of the game and not your character's skill points are the biggest factor holding you back if not the only factor.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2015-04-09 22:53:21 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

Except that you don't learn much by mining,because you're mining.
Theory should be learned while being unable to play.

Practise > Theory.

It's literally the worst thing new players can do.

Unless what you want to do is mine then it's the best thing a new player could do. It's only the worst thing to do if you don't enjoy it and are only doing it to earn isk to do what you enjoy.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2015-04-09 23:01:03 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

Except that it's a fact anyone can realise just by thinking about it.

Mining is the worst thing a new player can do.
There is nothing to learn while mining,
there is no interaction involved,
it makes the least amount of ISK and fun/hr,
one gets easily tempted to do something else (so why even play?) and ...
... sheesh, that's enough already.

Aside from the low isk nothing else that you say here is inherently true about mining and could be true about any activity depending on how you are doing it and what you have fun doing.

If you had ever been involved in large mining fleets that are extreemely effective you would know that there is far more interaction mining than anything else that I have done in game. There is also a certain amount of skill in doing it well and what you learn is how to mine effectively in a large fleet.

Yes if you solo mine while watching TV and don't care about isk per hour and just warp to station when your ore hold if full then yes mining can be boring. The same could be said about ratting or missions or anoms or anything else.

OP make friends and do what you like in fleet and it will be fun.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2015-04-09 23:05:15 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

Wow, how they let you getvaway with that name .........

Got nothing against it... seriously... just a bit baffled.

This is eve not WoW. I'm pretty sure that unless you have a name with some racist implications you are fine.

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GordonO
BURN EDEN
#47 - 2015-04-09 23:45:41 UTC
The quickest way for a new player to make isk in hs is to tag along on lvl 4 missions and take the loot/salvage. Mining with one toon is never going to get you far.
My advice is join a new player friendly corp, eve is hard solo.

... What next ??

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#48 - 2015-04-10 00:18:30 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#49 - 2015-04-10 02:47:34 UTC
I liked missions when I started. zonk some lv1s with a destroyer, move up to a cruiser and lv 2s, then a BC and lv 3s, and then a BS in lv4s. The pay kinda sucks till you hit 3s, but standings go up rather quickly. With connections lv 3 you only need to run one mission to have enough standings to access level 2s so that helps, since you seem to have some experience and isk might be easier to just jump in there.

then I got bored went to lowsec and lived the pirate life for a few years.

are there better ways, well yea probably, but at least some of that depends on how you define better.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-04-10 07:57:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Leannor
Eve Solecist wrote:
Leannor wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
mining is the worst thing you can do in this game, try following the missions, security missions are ok and will provide you with ships and isk, or you could throw £10 and buy a plex that will give you 800mil to play with.

battelships i would forget about till you get some experience, that experience wont come from mining :)

missions pay well but you need the higher missions lvl'4 etc, unfortunately you have to go through lvl 1's etc first



that's your opinion. not everyone will share it.

Except that it's a fact anyone can realise just by thinking about it.

Mining is the worst thing a new player can do.
There is nothing to learn while mining,
there is no interaction involved,
it makes the least amount of ISK and fun/hr,
one gets easily tempted to do something else (so why even play?) and ...
... sheesh, that's enough already.



[edit, someone else said it tonnes better, read up.]

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#51 - 2015-04-10 08:19:25 UTC
What people have been sort of talking circles around is that the answer to your question IS somewhat defined, it just depends on what you generally enjoy doing.

If you're in the game for the PVP, the way to make money is pretty much FW as a new player.

If you enjoy scanning more than the other starter stuff, rolling into Low-sec relic sites and sometimes data sites is about the optimum isk return on effort for someone in their first few months.

If what you're interested in is the industrial simulations, you'll want to find a few T1 blueprints that you can produce at a small but reliable margin, most likely some form of ammunition, while you mess around learning, training, and coming up with something more complicated and clever.

If you're in the game because no one would ever willingly hang out with you socially in real life and you're so boring you can't even stand your own company for more than a minute or two without falling asleep, roll with mining for your new-player isk.

So... yeah, there's your answer-space, work out your vector on what you want to spend your time on and roll out from there. And always remember: isk only have value in your imagination, your _time_ has actual real value in real life. If you're making isk hand over fist doing something you don't enjoy, you are running a financial LOSS.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#52 - 2015-04-10 11:18:19 UTC
Here's a guide to planetary interaction that I recently paid someone to write (with the goal of lowering the price of Robotics to benefit my alliance; but don't worry, they are still plenty profitable to make):

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=415269&find=unread

It requires a few skills, but none at high levels. You can realistically start doing it in two days and it will earn you ISK over time while you aren't logged in.

I advise against seeing a battleship as 'the best ship type'. They aren't. Like a circular saw, they are a tool that is very very good at doing some things, and downright terrible at doing others. I own one battleship at the moment (although I could afford to buy a couple hundred battleships if I desired to), yet I have dozens of tech 2 frigates.

I spend a lot more time in a 25 million ISK Taranis (including fit) than I do in my 2.2 billion ISK Kronos, and if I didn't have the skills to fly that Taranis, a 2 million ISK Atron would achieve the same goals.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2015-04-10 13:34:55 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
What people have been sort of talking circles around is that the answer to your question IS somewhat defined, it just depends on what you generally enjoy doing.

If you're in the game for the PVP, the way to make money is pretty much FW as a new player.

If you enjoy scanning more than the other starter stuff, rolling into Low-sec relic sites and sometimes data sites is about the optimum isk return on effort for someone in their first few months.

If what you're interested in is the industrial simulations, you'll want to find a few T1 blueprints that you can produce at a small but reliable margin, most likely some form of ammunition, while you mess around learning, training, and coming up with something more complicated and clever.

If you're in the game because no one would ever willingly hang out with you socially in real life and you're so boring you can't even stand your own company for more than a minute or two without falling asleep, roll with mining for your new-player isk.

So... yeah, there's your answer-space, work out your vector on what you want to spend your time on and roll out from there. And always remember: isk only have value in your imagination, your _time_ has actual real value in real life. If you're making isk hand over fist doing something you don't enjoy, you are running a financial LOSS.



lol you forgot to be insulting about the other traits commong with other activities, like ego's and such. Oh, what? Not everyones like that? ... yeah, same with mining, funnyily enough. :)

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2015-04-10 13:47:34 UTC
Being newbee myself I know how it feels. ;) Mining is ok, if it is combined with exploration. Find a wormhole, jump in. Warp to the anomaly and start mining Crokite or what gives you best isk/m3 ratio. You find all kind of ORE there. First 15 minutes you will not be bothered with NPC. Four trips in Venture = you have 8 milions per hour even as low skll newbee.

Guru here will try to get you into PvP aka factional warfare, but it is crap without proper team.

New mining menthods: interactive mining and comet mining

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