Wormholes

Like you said yourself, gas mining is really better and more profitable, especially if you take your time to scan down the C5 and above sites so I'd recommend going for that eventually. It's also safer since the site has to be probed down first so you have more time to see anyone coming.

Otherwise the Venture is a pretty good carebear ship, has built in warp stabs so unless you're totally afk you should be able to escape most things trying to get you. Do check dscan and warp if you see any interdictor or interceptor, it's them or instalocking recons that are most likely to catch you. Most if not all miners we found and exploded were caught because they were afk.

If you upgrade to the Prospect you lose the warp core bonus but instead have the ability to cloak which is nice.

Don't mine in wspace unless you don't like owning mining ships

Prospect has more low slots, you can add two wstabs there if you don't mind the lowered range (i.e. when gas mining).

But honestly, mining with a barge in HS is still more profitable then ninja-mining with a venture in wspace.

If you want to get decent ISK/H, go gas mining, or else simply stay in HS and do normal mining in a barge. Sleepers will force you to move regularly in wspace, and more moving means less time of actual minig, so less ISK/h. Sitting in a belt AFK and doing nothing but mining is more profitable, even if you only get HS ores.

Mining in wspace can be profitable, if you decide to live in the wormhole, put a POS up, close all connections, and get your orca and barges out and then go for the good ores (which are hemorphite and hedbergite atm, we will have to see what happens after the coming ore rebalance). Don't take the orca to the belt, leave it in the POS (yes, mining links run under POS shields). At least one person should be awake and squad-warp the whole fleet to sefety the second a new sig appears. use a miasmos to haul ores to the POS, reprocess them in an intensive reprocessing array and bring them out in a kryos.

You won't get more ISK/H out of mining anywhere in null, low or high sec. You can't be ganked, you get decent reprocessing quotas, and you have all the good ores in abundance, even with several people.


But ninja ore miningwith a venture? Meh, i mean it's nice for starters to feel adventurous, but from an ISK/h perspective, not so much. You are better of stealing rom jetcans in HS with your venture.

I've seen people ninja mine in wh's usually with venture, prospect and cheap t1 barges.

Not really, unless the coming rebalance is going to somehow make those ores worth more isk/hr than fullerite gasses, which would surprise me.

You're much better off both in safety and profit to scan down gas sites and mine them. Use scouts if possible and dscan regularly and you should be both safer and richer than your current technique.

mining in wspace with barge isnt best choice either players or sleepers will poke it with gun. but if you have pvp friends , u can be bait and they can wait someone try pop you. do not use retrievers for wormhole. they are usually exploding before you react. get an procurer instead.

I remember when I first did some ninja salvaging, I made approx 8 million my first try. Now I have T2 salvage rigs on a venture and the first time I used it I made enough to pay for the rigs (approx 25 million). But it is boring.

Ninja mining would be a lot more fun, because it is risky, but it would be better to talk to a corporation first. A corporation that is VERY active, and willing to help you out a bit for a week or so, before considering you for permanent membership simply because you are new.

Although.......the venture would be a good ship for it, and you would definitely learn what you need "right away" if you survive long enough.....

if ninja mining c5 sites{only ones really worth it}, you have 15 minutes from the time anyone lands in the site b4 the sleepers spawn. venture crew{5 or more} with a stab in low and MWD in mid can make quick work out of a site.

as for ore, i suggest you check http://ore.cerlestes.de ABC ores aren't worth much. Scordite is worth more than any of them & found in highsec. The only good thing about wh ore is that the rocks are huge.