EVE New Citizens Q&A

There's not really a frigate that will suit you.

Vexor may suit your needs, it just won't have any exploration bonuses but will cover the combat side pretty well if you like drones.

Gnosis seems to be what you are looking for although its not really that much cheaper than an Astero and won't be allowed in the lower end combat sites.

Bringing a mobile depot and a using a Tristan might work but again, no exploration bonuses and I'm not sure you'll have the cargo space to carry everything.

Have to agree with Loyd. I haven't found one ship yet. The SOE ones are about as close as you can get. One suggestion is to go with two ships stages in your favored exploration area. First is your Heron set up for data/relic sites. 2nd is a ship like the algos that is gun and drone dps, so its similar to astero, just about 1/70th of the price.

I tried for ages to enjoy the T3 for an all in one exploration boat, but ended up mostly flying the stratios if I was going to an all in one vessel. While the T3 was highly adaptable, its DPS with a Covops sub was poor. By the time I took all my subs with me, I only had like 50m3 of cargo space left.

Now if you don't want/need a covops cloak, then the gnosis can do it, but as mentioned, its not much cheaper than the astero.

Are you doing high/low/null exploration?

Are you fine without a covops cloak?

For low skill point players salvaging especially when salvaging someone else's sites can be good isk. As you get more skills and kill stuff faster you are much better off speed running and skipping the loot and salvage.

Of course your skills and personal playstyle factor in and these are just generalizations so you'll have to see for yourself. I have pretty high skills and can run PvE content pretty fast. I loot and salvage all of my anoms / missions. Do I do it because it's the smart thing to do or the most isk per hour? No. I do it because that's how I like to play and it's a game. So at the end of the day do what you like.

i understand, but i like to salvage too Thanks for info!

Algos is actually what I'd go with before skipping to pirate faction frigates.

It has three mids and three lows, meaning if you're rolling drones you can do one drone damage augment and dedicate the other lows to tank, mix tank rigs and scanning rigs in the rig slots, and still have rather good turret power going on even if you sacrifice a turret slot to stick a cloak in.

Frankly, as a solo/duo site-runner hunter in lowsec _I_ wouldn't **** with an Algos in a relic site in my expensive T2 frigate (decent chance that stuff's bait, yo), and wouldn't waste time trying to catch it with a cruiser or call a gang in because it's not an impressive/brag-worthy kill.

Also, Astero = 70 Misk or so, whereas Algos = 1.4 Misk, just comparing the hulls straight across. Astero has its advantages, and if you're in a situation where those advantages are a big deal (covops cloak, low sig radius, etc) it's worth every penny, but you're talking about popping NPCs, and the only thing that matters with NPCs is that Algos is going to have significantly higher raw damage and somewhat stronger tank in many situations.

The only thing it'll lose you is 1/10 restricted sites and the ability to do some L1 security missions while you wait, which... meh. You don't need an Astero for those either, if they're even worth doing for you at all.

EDIT: Regarding the salvage question: Algos can stick 2x Salvager Drone in with a full load of small drones, so there's that.

Keep some salvage drones handy

I love my Stratios, warps while cloaked, has scanning and drone bonuses. Might be the right ship for you

same as astero :)



yeah i'll check that out! Thanks

Are you sure? Ingame it says to use a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II you need Cloaking IV and CPU Management IV. I'm pretty sure you only need to be in a hull that has the Covert Ops Cloaking Device role bonus, not the Covert Ops skill itself.

Edit: my point being you can get into an Astero faster than the Anathema.

I stand corrected i thought cov ops cloak was tied to cov ops skill sorry my bad