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Everyone read this: New discovery much like Caroline's star

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Dailar Toralen
Toralen Industries
#1 - 2015-04-07 16:44:06 UTC
Ok, the name is newbish but still, I have a very big update. While in the Luminaire System I recently discovered a new anomaly or whatever you wish to call it. It looks far enough away from Caroline's Star to be in the Cluster we know and can travel around as Capsuleers, even though it looks much smaller then Caroline's Star which could mean it could be farther away then Caroline's Star. It is very large and very, well, red. Whatever it is we need get research teams in there and find out what it is. If anyone has any data, please post on Project Insight. Also, if anyone detects even a smidge of different behaviour from the Drifters or Sleepers, inform us. Bottom line, any responses go to Project Insight.

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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#2 - 2015-04-07 16:50:37 UTC
Pics, or it didn't happen.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-04-08 00:47:59 UTC
Actually...

From Emsar VII Belt Six looking toward the Manarq gate, I saw a reddish star grow in brightness and then dim in a repeating cycle. Jumping to Manarq, the same star appears the same size, shifting through the same cycle. The effect is emphasized in warp.

In the Synchelle system, at the Pakhshi gate, look at the Gallente nebula. On the right side about halway down, there is a "finger" of gas reaching up. Follow the finger down. Leave your camera pointed in that direction for and you will see a star at the base of the finger brighten and dim.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2015-04-08 10:00:23 UTC
That's nice. Let's call it Dailar's Star, shall we?

Now please, if you want to be treated seriously, give us a still of this "star", and a system where you spotted it so someone competent can go ahead and jump around and say that it is just a neighbouring star... again.
Dailar Toralen
Toralen Industries
#5 - 2015-04-08 13:02:46 UTC
Bourbon Limoges wrote:
Actually...

From Emsar VII Belt Six looking toward the Manarq gate, I saw a reddish star grow in brightness and then dim in a repeating cycle. Jumping to Manarq, the same star appears the same size, shifting through the same cycle. The effect is emphasized in warp.

In the Synchelle system, at the Pakhshi gate, look at the Gallente nebula. On the right side about halway down, there is a "finger" of gas reaching up. Follow the finger down. Leave your camera pointed in that direction for and you will see a star at the base of the finger brighten and dim.


See, I'm not completely crazy. This is exactly what I saw. It blends in with the spacescape of the Amarr, but you can see it from Gallente Space. And I don't expect it to be named after me.

We are Toralen Industries. It doesn't matter if you fight for money, idealogies, or because it's what you are good at and it doesn't matter if you fight threw trade, combat, or diplomacy. No matter what or how you fight, there's a place for you.

Chibi Katana
Division 13
#6 - 2015-04-08 13:51:14 UTC
Dailar Toralen wrote:
Bourbon Limoges wrote:
Actually...

From Emsar VII Belt Six looking toward the Manarq gate, I saw a reddish star grow in brightness and then dim in a repeating cycle. Jumping to Manarq, the same star appears the same size, shifting through the same cycle. The effect is emphasized in warp.

In the Synchelle system, at the Pakhshi gate, look at the Gallente nebula. On the right side about halway down, there is a "finger" of gas reaching up. Follow the finger down. Leave your camera pointed in that direction for and you will see a star at the base of the finger brighten and dim.


See, I'm not completely crazy. This is exactly what I saw. It blends in with the spacescape of the Amarr, but you can see it from Gallente Space. And I don't expect it to be named after me.

Why didn't you take a picture?

I went and took a look. I was unable to see anything remarkable that was red in colour, though one of the neighboring stars does shine with a red hue, but seems otherwise unremarkable. Though I did see a pulsing star from the location Mr Limoges mentions.

Whether or not it's unusual I don't know. Don't have the time right now to really look into it.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-04-09 02:18:00 UTC
Chibi Katana wrote:
Dailar Toralen wrote:
Bourbon Limoges wrote:
Actually...

From Emsar VII Belt Six looking toward the Manarq gate, I saw a reddish star grow in brightness and then dim in a repeating cycle. Jumping to Manarq, the same star appears the same size, shifting through the same cycle. The effect is emphasized in warp.

In the Synchelle system, at the Pakhshi gate, look at the Gallente nebula. On the right side about halway down, there is a "finger" of gas reaching up. Follow the finger down. Leave your camera pointed in that direction for and you will see a star at the base of the finger brighten and dim.


See, I'm not completely crazy. This is exactly what I saw. It blends in with the spacescape of the Amarr, but you can see it from Gallente Space. And I don't expect it to be named after me.

Why didn't you take a picture?

I went and took a look. I was unable to see anything remarkable that was red in colour, though one of the neighboring stars does shine with a red hue, but seems otherwise unremarkable. Though I did see a pulsing star from the location Mr Limoges mentions.

Whether or not it's unusual I don't know. Don't have the time right now to really look into it.


Isn't that a pulsar?

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Chibi Katana
Division 13
#8 - 2015-04-09 05:55:35 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Isn't that a pulsar?

No idea.

But it was the only thing in any of the mentioned systems that showed any signs of dimming/pulsing.

Nothing at all that was "red" other than an otherwise normal looking neighboring star...
Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#9 - 2015-04-09 07:38:01 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Isn't that a pulsar?

Looks a lot like Shelby's Star to me, yo.

Euttere Geten
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-04-09 07:38:14 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Isn't that a pulsar?

While my lower division 2nd unit stellar astronomy is still somewhat fresh in mind, pulsars are compact objects whose periods are detected in the radio band of EM radiation rather than visible light. The emissions tend to be beam-like and should thus not be visible from all over the cluster, possibly not even in different systems in the same constellation.

There are recorded pulsating variable stars with periods that short, but they are usually white giants. It's also possible that you're seeing an eclipsing binary with a very short period, but the variance in magnitude is typically harder to detect without spectroscopic analysis.

Almost makes me wish I had pursued more science classes.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-04-09 12:26:49 UTC
Euttere Geten wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Isn't that a pulsar?

While my lower division 2nd unit stellar astronomy is still somewhat fresh in mind, pulsars are compact objects whose periods are detected in the radio band of EM radiation rather than visible light. The emissions tend to be beam-like and should thus not be visible from all over the cluster, possibly not even in different systems in the same constellation.

There are recorded pulsating variable stars with periods that short, but they are usually white giants. It's also possible that you're seeing an eclipsing binary with a very short period, but the variance in magnitude is typically harder to detect without spectroscopic analysis.

Almost makes me wish I had pursued more science classes.


Perhaps it's a star with a number of gas giants orbiting it?

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Euttere Geten
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-04-09 12:51:41 UTC
You're in the right, there. If the gas giants are sufficiently large and properly oriented they should be able to dim the apparent magnitude, so long as we view the star's planetary system 'edge-on'. Might still be hard to see with just a camera drone, though.
Shikhee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2015-04-09 13:41:16 UTC
Euttere Geten wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Isn't that a pulsar?

While my lower division 2nd unit stellar astronomy is still somewhat fresh in mind, pulsars are compact objects whose periods are detected in the radio band of EM radiation rather than visible light. The emissions tend to be beam-like and should thus not be visible from all over the cluster, possibly not even in different systems in the same constellation.

There are recorded pulsating variable stars with periods that short, but they are usually white giants. It's also possible that you're seeing an eclipsing binary with a very short period, but the variance in magnitude is typically harder to detect without spectroscopic analysis.

Almost makes me wish I had pursued more science classes.


Pulsars are not restricted to radio. They can also emit visible light, x-ray, and gamma ray wavelengths.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2015-04-09 14:33:58 UTC
Caroline's star was visible everywhere, breaking laws of physics. It was unique and breathtaking by its degree event, that could happen only by divine intervention.
Whatever object appeared in Luminaire sky, doesn't look to appear in other skies, and thus is probably just a creation of Federal heretic hands without any divine power.

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Kensa Katana
Division 13
#15 - 2015-04-09 14:36:19 UTC
For the love of Bob, why doesn't someone actually go down there and take a look?

OP won't give us anything. Took Chibi all of fifteen minutes to travel there and take a quick look around, and she's not even supposed to be flying yet.

All this speculation, two IGS threads, and nobody's even gone down there.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2015-04-09 15:32:54 UTC
Kensa Katana wrote:
For the love of Bob, why doesn't someone actually go down there and take a look?

OP won't give us anything. Took Chibi all of fifteen minutes to travel there and take a quick look around, and she's not even supposed to be flying yet.

All this speculation, two IGS threads, and nobody's even gone down there.

Having done this at least 3 times, each time I see someone who claims that he/she had found another Whatever's Star, I just smile and forget about it. These cravings for attention are funny at best.
Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-04-09 15:40:18 UTC
There's a dot in the sky. In any one system, it is not particularly remarkable. At its brightest, it is no brighter than any other foreground star. It most notable feature is that it is relatively easy to find moving from system to system, at least in Gallente space, by aligning with a distant landmark. Caroline's nebula is a convenient such landmark, being both distant and readily visible. In Gallente space, when oriented at Caroline's nebula, this particular dot appears on the left roughly 140 degrees back.

Given that there is a dot that is fairly easy to find, it will be fairly easy to check on it day by day. Maybe it will turn into something more than an odd little dot. Maybe it won't.

Before another round of condescending dipshittery begins, yes, it is entirely possible that it will not become more than an odd little dot. That's kind of how it works. If you feel a need to make some condescending dipshit remark, take a break, go **** yourself, and wait for something obviously interesting to happen. Maybe that's more your speed.
Kensa Katana
Division 13
#18 - 2015-04-09 15:46:42 UTC
Bourbon Limoges wrote:
Before another round of condescending dipshittery begins, yes, it is entirely possible that it will not become more than an odd little dot. That's kind of how it works. If you feel a need to make some condescending dipshit remark, take a break, go **** yourself, and wait for something obviously interesting to happen. Maybe that's more your speed.

Wow, someone needs some air I think.

Maybe step out for a bit, take a flight down to that system to clear your head, maybe even take a picture or two of these things while there?
Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-04-09 16:02:48 UTC
Kensa Katana wrote:

Wow, someone needs some air I think.

Maybe step out for a bit, take a flight down to that system to clear your head, maybe even take a picture or two of these things while there?


To repeat:

"There's a dot in the sky. In any one system, it is not particularly remarkable. At its brightest, it is no brighter than any other foreground star. It most notable feature is that it is relatively easy to find moving from system to system, at least in Gallente space, by aligning with a distant landmark. Caroline's nebula is a convenient such landmark, being both distant and readily visible. In Gallente space, when oriented at Caroline's nebula, this particular dot appears on the left roughly 140 degrees back."

Have you seen a picture of a star? Yes? Imagine that picture. This dot is not currently more interesting than that picture, and may never be more interesting than that picture. Feel free to move on to a discussion more in keeping with your interests.
Kensa Katana
Division 13
#20 - 2015-04-09 16:16:29 UTC
Bourbon Limoges wrote:
Have you seen a picture of a star? Yes? Imagine that picture. This dot is not currently more interesting than that picture, and may never be more interesting than that picture. Feel free to move on to a discussion more in keeping with your interests.

So basically you're saying it's likely nothing remarkable at all.

My interests though are more aligned to investigating such a thing, rather than sit around speculating and "discussing" it. Interestingly, despite it being merely a cursory visit, Chibi is the only one who's bothered to go take a secondary look into it beyond the constant directions given in these threads and thinly-veiled requests for "someone else go investigate it please, just make sure to report it to me so I can take the credit".

Excuse me, sir, for actually acting on the ramblings and lazy requests here. Maybe you'd like to get off your backside and undock before you go telling people to "go **** themselves" and insinuating they're dipshits for trying to encourage people to get out there amongst it and actually find some answers.
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