Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That's exactly why killrights are a good idea. Because said individuals are exploiting the normal legal mechanics, cheating their way around it. Concord could be rationalized as citing them for violating some part of the Yulai treaty or whatever.




And as afkalt was so kind as to accidentally reveal, bypassing that is entirely trivial to anyone with a cursory knowledge of pos mechanics.




It's both, and should have ramifications on both, as opposed to now where it has them on neither, and it is highly abused.

A few million isk and less than twenty minutes is not "plenty" of ramifications.

That's all that dec dodging costs anyone.

You cannot exploit a legal mechanic, if it is legal it is by definition not cheating.

War is a corp mechanism not a mechanism to gain killrights against an individual. The punishment from leaving a corp during war should be being blocked from any corp activities (other than NPC) for that duration. If you want to go after the individual then do so using the usual methods.


I would suggest any means of avoiding the war duration disbarment from player corp activities be fixed when they fix the whole structures/wardec system otherwise it is a waste of effort providing a sticking plaster solution.


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You cannot declare war on an individual, only his/her/it's corp. It is therefore a purely inter-corp mechanic. Corp mechanics should have ramifications on corp activities.

Depends on the corp, some yeah, others, not really...

Wars are suppost to be a fun part of eve for everyone involved it makes nowhere in eve safe this keeps the market steady and provides content in a game where where content is player driven. I think a few things need to change and improve to make war's a system even nullsec would use. i have a few ideas so here are my main complaints :)

I would like to see more information on wars like why they are starting and who is involved, let the defender know why this is happening to them and who they can talk to about ending it by the initial mail the defending corp receves, instead of concord just saying YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN 24HRS! Give them the info like what charactor from the corp/alliance put in the war, there reason for doing so, what the aggressor wants from the war (if they want to share that) and what the defender can do to meet the demands if he wants it over with.

Others should be able to see this info if they are intending to offer their support for eather side. corps who offer assistance on a war should be rated by the accepting defenders on how they preformed as an allie so others can see strong allies from useless ones

It should cost people who drop corps a penalty fee for making a new corp while the initial war is live with their former corp/alliance or atleast give the agressor some options for this outcome (reduction on war fee or ability to end the war and swap the war over within 24hrs so the war on corp A ends as the war on corp B starts for whatever time was remaining on the week)
People who drop to NPC while at war should be stuck in NPC corp's for longer preiods of time ADD JUMP FATIGUE HERE!

Make better rewards for anyone mining or mission running or pvping while at war i thought risk = reward in eve and that would make players have more of a reason to stick wars out or want to start wars even in nullsec if the added rewards are worth it. FW gets paid with LP, why cant war's pay a % of isk value killed to who got top dmg?

Back to information, a bio is fine but it sucks that all you have to look up a corp/alliance is out of eve sites battleclinic, zkill, eve tools ect. yet nothing in eve itself that shows how dangerous they are or where they usually hunt, not even a most recent 5-10 kills/losses, active timezone's, prefered activity, how competent they are. (most of that is info you see looking at a corp advert but not on the actual corp?)
CCP should Change "show corp info" to "show me some useless facts i dont need" untill they get round to addressing this

Trade hubs need to be set apart from other stations they are popular ports where people move to and from in masses, i dont think players should be able to attack each other on there undocks or within a set distance from station, simply because if poeple are free to undock and move they will. You can still kill them once there moving but atleast then aggressors are commited to the fight and can't dock to change there fit or grab something bigger. (you can eather watch someone dock back up or watch them die with tears in local i know what i'd prefer)

I'm looking forword to hearing stats about the new structures comming to eve, more assets in space like pos's and poco's = more content and pressure on defending owners to stand by or lose them, maybe add set pos for alliance and give those pos's link slots make owning or placing a pos a more tactical decision for mining or combat links for its owning alliance members

and i really hope the new sov stealing modual thing will let us clame abandoned POS's and mods after some time.

Please, point out anywhere in that old wardec dev blog where CCP intends that the consequence of a war should be a few million isk and refolding the corp.

Until then, knock off this lie.

Sandbox....players made this happen. Its the conflict you and others keep on saying ccp needs to market to sell the game.
Blob A beat down blob B so bad they failscaded. Will they come back? Will they come back strong? Its like the cliffhanger ending to a series finale. This sells. its the eternal internet space ship drama.

Sadly you and people like you choose empire dec'ing. No one cares if you shut down a bear corp. You all choose your crap reward really. Want big...find big targets that have people say damn....nice work.

Go to caod....the chest beating is the reward. taking the corp/ alliance name can be a reward if done right (once in a while goons even has a poster post with the BoB tag, hell sometimes they as a joke offer to sell the BoB alliance name lol) or with great effort you can fail cascade a crew so much its executor/ceo says screw it (but keeps the name) and the new leadership goes well...how does insert_name. (dot at the end) sound fella's.

Code can even post there too. You got the C and the A. Granted you will be taken as seriously as other empire pvp crews but you have freedom of speech so don't let that stop you. Closed down a bear corp..go.claim your caod reward.

or crews like yours could you know...dec the alliances. this kept snotshot and others like him busy for years. Hell nailing the idiots hitting empire wt red (in jita of all places) the first week of the dec paid them pretty good I imagine. Since oddly enough....carebears are smart enough to stay docked with 5+ reds in local but some 0.0 peeps just trudge on ahead. In a hauler. Loaded to the brim. With no warp stabs. Or cloaks.

Oh, so that makes it okay, does it? If only that ideal was applied equitably in any way.

For example, I am one of a very few number of people who know of a way to evade Concord that CCP has overlooked. If I were to use that, I could say that it's a sandbox, and that it was player action that made it happen... and still get banned anyway.

The rest of your post is just you ranting about how you hate PvP, and I will not address it.

Correct. As a player, your responsibility to not not proliferate the exploit, which I don't. [edit: I should point out that I did report it when I found it, and was answered with deafening silence

The example given was to demonstrate that carebears not only benefit from, but also demand that the rules not be applied equally.

Evading a wardec? Totally okay. Evading Concord? Totally not okay, because *reasons*.

That's what I'm here doing, asking for CCP to (re)classify dec dodging as the exploit that it is, and to fix wardecs.

I'm not going to be a tool and encourage everyone to evade Concord, because whether or not I deride it as a binary, awkward, immersion breaking, pathetic excuse for a game mechanic, I play this game by the rules.