EVE General Discussion

I think the game hasn't even peaked yet. There's still too much raw potential. One day I hope there'll be some sort of golden change that will magically unjumble the UI and the newbie experience and make the game much easier to play.

Jesus isnt a historian he doesnt care about all that. He only cares that we keep consumerism high on the holidays. <- he was a carpenter so he likes the extra business the holidays brings. How do you think Joseph could afford to take his family to egypt if it wasnt for black friday and cyber monday.

It might. If it does, it will be a long time from now. I think that EVE, due to its nature, has an extended lifespan. One that can be further extended, given proper TLC.

I also think Crucible is what happens when the playerbase freaks CCP out a bit. Crucible owned and if the next year is as good as Crucible, well, I think there's a bright future ahead.

The Church couldn't stop people from celebrating the pagan holiday(s) of Yule (Yultide) so they superimposed Jesus's birthday over it.

EVE can't die
It's in our heads...

If they push occasional A/V updates, I'm fairly certain that Eve will last another 12+ years. Unlike many other MMORPGs, in Eve it is the players who make the content. This focus, coupled with the pvp nature of the game and interesting gameplay systems give it far more longevity than your standard 1234 fantasy button masher.



There were some articles about a month ago stating that WoW had lost nearly 1m subs during the third quarter.

If wow is dieing explain how they keep increasing their numbers. they are at over 10mil players. eve 300k maybe

PR fluff caused this summer's threadnarok (edit, forums hated the link ... let's see if this works -- http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065&page=1 ). 13,000+ posts in seven days (admittedly, a fair number are probably trolling or useless ... even if only 15% were useful, that's still 1900 posts).

I get it, some people (presumably, you included) joined after hearing about WiS, and thought it was a "good enough" feature to sign up for. And yes, many of the older players like the idea (me included) as well -- but CCP blew it with 2 years of "just wait guys, we have ~awesome~ coming for you" leading up to the terribad release that was Incarna.

Let them CCP fix a lot of the things that people have been complaining about being absolutely ******* broken for the last number of years before trying to get them to ram another **** expansion down our throats. Seriously, CCP probably won't be able to handle another expansion that flops like Incarna. Let them get back on track, iterate on things that have been needing it for ages.

CCP is on thin ice with the playerbase right now. I'm pretty sure they've calculated the risks and are willing to see a few players leave because "hey, WiS is still a prison cell", rather than the mass exodus that "guess Crucible and the new direction was just bullshit from CCP" would likely cause. Alternatively, they may not have calculated the risks, and still think we're just a cash cow, but realised that FiS keeps the cash cow happier overall.

The numbers don't really have the much to do with dieing. Yes, 0 subscribers = dead, but with a niche game(i.e. EvE) the players base tends to be a lot more loyal. A lot of wow's player base is there because everyone else is there. It also has the best "hardcore" end game content for a game of its type. As soon as another game takes a good chunk of the players and another game starts to be considered the new head honcho, the rest will follow. It's human nature. It almost happened with Rift, but then they got to the end game and everyone realized the end game sucked.