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Please Give me your (New) Black Ops Sin Ship Fitting Suggestions.

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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-06 21:29:53 UTC
I am getting a new Sin and I want to know what I can fit it with.

Additionally, I know about o.smium.org which will let me publish the fittings I have.


I am welcoming any and all suggestions for that.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#2 - 2015-04-06 22:07:33 UTC
You can fit it with most non-capitals sized modules.
Justin Zaine
#3 - 2015-04-06 22:25:45 UTC
[Sin - Spoonfed]

Highs
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II

Mids
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II

Lows
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II
Google II

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-04-07 04:21:58 UTC
[Sinister]

'Monopoly' Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
'Monopoly' Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Damage Control II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Gist C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
'Marketeer' Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed Script
Large Micro Jump Drive

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device
Small Tractor Beam I
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I


Garde II x5
Curator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Infiltrator II x5

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-04-07 07:04:28 UTC
[Singular]

Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Damage Control II
Corpum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
'Inception' Target Painter I
'Marketeer' Tracking Computer I
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Large Micro Jump Drive

Improved Cloaking Device II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
Small Tractor Beam I
Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor II
Large Anti-Explosive Pump II


Bouncer II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Javelin L x320
Nanite Repair Paste x64
Tracking Speed Script x2
Scan Resolution Script x1

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#6 - 2015-04-07 11:58:04 UTC
[Sin, PvP]

Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Unit W-634's Modified Drone Damage Amplifier
Unit W-634's Modified Drone Damage Amplifier

Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier
Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor

Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer

Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II


'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x1

Basically unkillable. Recommended to solo drop with it.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#7 - 2015-04-07 12:48:57 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
[Singular]

Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Damage Control II
Corpum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
'Inception' Target Painter I
'Marketeer' Tracking Computer I
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Large Micro Jump Drive

Improved Cloaking Device II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
Small Tractor Beam I
Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor II
Large Anti-Explosive Pump II


Bouncer II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Javelin L x320
Nanite Repair Paste x64
Tracking Speed Script x2
Scan Resolution Script x1


why no neuts on these?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-07 14:18:39 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
[Sin, PvP]

Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Unit W-634's Modified Drone Damage Amplifier
Unit W-634's Modified Drone Damage Amplifier

Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier
Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor

Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Cormack's Modified Neutron Blaster Cannon
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer

Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II


'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x5
'Augmented' Ogre x1

Basically unkillable. Recommended to solo drop with it.


OP this is literally the I-win fit of eve online. There will be nothing but glory for you.
Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-04-07 14:54:49 UTC
All right, I will check those fits and compare the costs, values +DPS and EHP
and report here

I`ll also try to find out some of the related piloting quirks.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#10 - 2015-04-07 14:59:01 UTC
[Sin, nigh ideal sin fit]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Covert Jump Portal Generator I
Dread Guristas Cloaking Device
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Cargohold Optimization II
Large Cargohold Optimization II

Nigh... There most certainly are modules worth fitting in the mids and highs, but this is using the hull to its max. Redeemer is a lot better tho. Sin is pretty bad.
DankoShepard
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-04-07 16:46:23 UTC
Off topic question... Can anyone tell me what's the Sin speed when it's cloaked? is it like having an afterburner on?
Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2015-04-07 17:10:48 UTC
146m/s base speed
339m/s with T2 AB
229m/s with T2 Cloak

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-04-07 19:14:16 UTC
why no1 fitting theirs with concord cloaks, noobs
Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-04-07 20:08:03 UTC
DankoShepard wrote:
Off topic question... Can anyone tell me what's the Sin speed when it's cloaked? is it like having an afterburner on?

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
146m/s base speed
339m/s with T2 AB
229m/s with T2 Cloak

You can't run the Afterburner while cloaked, it deactivates.
Furthermore, you can't warp, shoot or target while cloaked.

The cloaks Maximum Velocity Modifier
is -72.5 % for a Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

75% for Improved Cloaking Device II .

- 67% for Estamel's Modified Cloaking Device (purple)
however, it is not sold anywhere.

Some T1 cloaks reduce speed by 91%.
So , if the base speed is 146 m/s, 72.5% is 105.85 m/s.
at 22,499,999 ISK

109.5 m/s with a T2 cloak = 2,698,874 ISK

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Paranoid Loyd
#15 - 2015-04-07 20:12:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Veine Miromme wrote:

Some T1 cloaks reduce speed by 91%.
So , if the base speed is 146 m/s, 72.5% is 105.85 m/s.
at 22,499,999 ISK

109.5 m/s with a T2 cloak = 2,698,874 ISK
This is incorrect, check the bonuses for the Black Ops. Unless Osimum has a bug, my numbers are correct.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-04-07 22:18:33 UTC
Veine Miromme wrote:
DankoShepard wrote:
Off topic question... Can anyone tell me what's the Sin speed when it's cloaked? is it like having an afterburner on?

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
146m/s base speed
339m/s with T2 AB
229m/s with T2 Cloak

You can't run the Afterburner while cloaked, it deactivates.
Furthermore, you can't warp, shoot or target while cloaked.

The cloaks Maximum Velocity Modifier
is -72.5 % for a Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

75% for Improved Cloaking Device II .

- 67% for Estamel's Modified Cloaking Device (purple)
however, it is not sold anywhere.

Some T1 cloaks reduce speed by 91%.
So , if the base speed is 146 m/s, 72.5% is 105.85 m/s.
at 22,499,999 ISK

109.5 m/s with a T2 cloak = 2,698,874 ISK


Blops speed increased while cloacked. Blops can run AB while cloaked.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#17 - 2015-04-07 23:10:36 UTC
Veine Miromme wrote:
I am getting a new Sin and I want to know what I can fit it with.

Additionally, I know about o.smium.org which will let me publish the fittings I have.


I am welcoming any and all suggestions for that.


Please give me 5 billion isk and I will give you a fit.

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This is the law of ship progression!

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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-04-08 13:08:38 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Veine Miromme wrote:
DankoShepard wrote:
Off topic question... Can anyone tell me what's the Sin speed when it's cloaked? is it like having an afterburner on?

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
146m/s base speed
339m/s with T2 AB
229m/s with T2 Cloak

You can't run the Afterburner while cloaked, it deactivates.
Furthermore, you can't warp, shoot or target while cloaked.

The cloaks Maximum Velocity Modifier
is -72.5 % for a Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

75% for Improved Cloaking Device II .

- 67% for Estamel's Modified Cloaking Device (purple)
however, it is not sold anywhere.

Some T1 cloaks reduce speed by 91%.
So , if the base speed is 146 m/s, 72.5% is 105.85 m/s.
at 22,499,999 ISK

109.5 m/s with a T2 cloak = 2,698,874 ISK


Blops speed increased while cloacked. Blops can run AB while cloaked.

I made a few errors indeed and didn't have the time to fix them yesterday...

Black Ops bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to ship inertia modifier
125% bonus to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices

Also, for 5b to get a fit, whether that includes fitted ships or not, is too expensive.
It would take many years, which may make it worth more then.

elitatwo wrote:
Please give me 5 billion isk and I will give you a fit.
...
So,
from the calculation above, which btw, have inversed results, since the percentage had to be deducted from the total.
(I made the mistake of using the percentage that was to be deducted.)

With a base speed of 146 m/s and 125% bonus to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices
= 146 x 125% = 182.5 m/s.
That is without including a 72.5% penalty to that speed, or to the ship max velocity.
I will try to verify what that turns out to be.
I think it will take me about 4 to 15 days to learn Jump Drive Calibration IV after finishing Jump Drive Operation V in around 13 hours.

182.5 m/s (without AB) - 72.5% (= - 132.3125 m/s)
= 50.1875 m/s
if that is the speed resulting a using cloak with the Maximum Velocity Modifier.
(Joke: I will not test compared to a bicycle in town.)
It seems to be applied differently, whether it is a bonus without hindrance or other.

I didn't want to check about the AB result before,
Max Velocity Bonus = 126%
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Meta level 3
100k ISK

100MN Afterburner II
Max Velocity Bonus = 121.5%
Meta level 5
2,6m ISK

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-04-08 13:24:14 UTC
Viene, i think you've confused yourself and entered the wrong class room.

I'm kind of worry about what exactly you are trying to achieve with your math (speed/isk).

No i feel that my Sin and Panther are in danger...

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#20 - 2015-04-08 13:26:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
what you wanna use an afterburner while cloaked for?

what do you wanna use an afterburner for anyway?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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