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What EVE is missing

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Untrained Capsuleer
Rorquals Anonymous
#1 - 2015-04-07 19:53:20 UTC
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

The one thing that EVE is really missing are Achievements!

Think about it. In WoW, whenever you get an achievement, everyone congratulates you, your guild and anyone around you, who saw it. And it makes you feel good. It makes you feel you achieved something. It gives you something to show off. And it bonds you with everyone who congratulates you. It gives you a talking point, when things fall silent in your guild.

On the other hand, there's nothing like that in EVE. Only time someone talks in EVE is when they have a question about a mechanic, they don't fully understand. So in corp, there is a lot of silence and rarely anything that bonds you to your fellow members of your corp.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-04-07 19:53:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
1/10

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2015-04-07 19:55:48 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.



You are so in the wrong forum, bubba. Repost in the new kid's forum if you want affirmation and no hostility.

Mr Epeen Cool
Baaldor
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2015-04-07 19:57:54 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

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You just painted a great big bulls-eye on that fat melon of yours.
Boseo
Azure Horizon
#5 - 2015-04-07 20:04:30 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:

Only time someone talks in EVE is when they have a question about a mechanic, they don't fully understand. So in corp, there is a lot of silence and rarely anything that bonds you to your fellow members of your corp.


Will just say that this is not entirely true, I remember on some of the more active days of a corp I was in there being a discussion about the possibility of launching rodents from one persons house in the south of the us to someone else in Iceland. lots of talk of fuel and putting little nose cones on its had were had.

So if you are with a good set of guys (or girls) you can generally get some form of conversation going.

Sorry but file “forumsig.GIF” is currently unavailable please come back later…… like in a year or so.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2015-04-07 20:06:49 UTC
*Large puff of smoke and fire*

Muwahahahahaaaaaa! Who dares summon the dark lord of General Discussion?!?!?!

Oh, NPC Forum alt... nevermind.

*Large puff of smoke and fire*

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#7 - 2015-04-07 20:12:00 UTC
We have acheivments, but they are made by player corps. Join one. And earn one. Thanks

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#8 - 2015-04-07 20:12:30 UTC
Wow H., you must be really bored. ^_^
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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2015-04-07 20:12:57 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

The one thing that EVE is really missing are Achievements!

Think about it. In WoW, whenever you get an achievement, everyone congratulates you, your guild and anyone around you, who saw it. And it makes you feel good. It makes you feel you achieved something. It gives you something to show off. And it bonds you with everyone who congratulates you. It gives you a talking point, when things fall silent in your guild.

On the other hand, there's nothing like that in EVE. Only time someone talks in EVE is when they have a question about a mechanic, they don't fully understand. So in corp, there is a lot of silence and rarely anything that bonds you to your fellow members of your corp.



join a new corp. obviously yours is not that good if no one bonds you to them.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#10 - 2015-04-07 20:15:34 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
*Large puff of smoke and fire*

Muwahahahahaaaaaa! Who dares summon the dark lord of General Discussion?!?!?!

Oh, NPC Forum alt... nevermind.

*Large puff of smoke and fire*


I thought I was the Dark Lord of GD? I had business cards printed up and everything. Crap

Well hell, I guess I'll have to settle for being Dark Lord of Missions and Complexes, which for some reason seems slightly less prestigious.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-04-07 20:16:06 UTC
Baaldor wrote:
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

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You just painted a great big bulls-eye on that fat melon of yours.

OP, you can count that as an achievement if you want.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2015-04-07 20:22:00 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I thought I was the Dark Lord of GD? I had business cards printed up and everything. Crap

Well hell, I guess I'll have to settle for being Dark Lord of Missions and Complexes, which for some reason seems slightly less prestigious.


I don't refund business card expenses, but hold on to them! There may come a time when I retire, and need to name an heir... and having the cards printed up already might make my decision easier...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2015-04-07 20:22:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Garnoo
achievements:
basic gurista ratter: 50m gurista kills
gurista ratter: 500m gurista kills
advanced gurista ratter: 5b gurista kills

was waiting for this my whole life :)

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

Untrained Capsuleer
Rorquals Anonymous
#14 - 2015-04-07 20:23:06 UTC
Baaldor wrote:
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

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You just painted a great big bulls-eye on that fat melon of yours.

What you mean?

And why are you insulting me like that?
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#15 - 2015-04-07 20:23:49 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

The one thing that EVE is really missing are Achievements!

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That first sentence may well end up with an achievement... of the wrong kind.

Are not achievements in 'that other game' a substitute for meaningful interaction?

(yes, I took the bait)
Untrained Capsuleer
Rorquals Anonymous
#16 - 2015-04-07 20:32:22 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Baaldor wrote:
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:
This are the views of a newbie, so trolls please stay away.

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You just painted a great big bulls-eye on that fat melon of yours.

OP, you can count that as an achievement if you want.

It doesn't help, when it's not shown anywhere.
Lux Jinks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-04-07 20:59:53 UTC



achievements are like the gold stars you get on your homework in elementary school... they are for children desperate for attention.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
Somethin Awfull Forums
#18 - 2015-04-07 21:05:12 UTC
It's one of the things NPE is missing.
There is no 'greater goal' in new player corps. It's a spot where you sort of establish a niche for yourself but it doesn't really give you scale in EVE and doesn't really offer you the tools to go after an objective even if you could find one.

There are a number of larger goals in EVE but they are all long term, intended to be joint effort goals. One of the reasons I would have liked to see a planet side mini game would be to scale a player to New Eden. Give every new player one unit of Marine. Let them rig a ship with a drop pod and deploy to a planet. That's you in New Eden. Allow them to build up an army, 250 marines and gear them, play overlord at a single player level but start it with a single unit of personnel to draw scale. Experience in such a mini game when translated back to your character lets you see what you truly need to do in EVE to reach objectives. Even something as basic as making your own T2 ship. You need someone making the T2, someone making the T1, someone making the BPC's, someone gathering the datacores, someone making the rigs, someone making the fittings, someone making all the things that make that ship work. EVE is a game of community and we are micromanaging individual components in large machines. I'm sure there are other ways to show new players the scale of the New Eden ecosystem but the planet side mini game seemed the most logical to me. The way to show new people they need to integrate themselves in to New Eden and at the same time, offer a distraction while time based long, term goals take shape. All happening on a level of New Eden that can support it, unlike current Sov map that doesn't support it.

tl;dr we are all little fish in a big pond but little fish make giant schools.



R.I.P. Vile Rat

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
Already Replaced.
#19 - 2015-04-07 21:06:49 UTC
Untrained Capsuleer wrote:

So in corp, there is a lot of silence and rarely anything that bonds you to your fellow members of your corp.


you're in the wrong corp. Big smile
Untrained Capsuleer
Rorquals Anonymous
#20 - 2015-04-07 21:26:53 UTC
You are all laughing now...

But the new opportunities CCP is implementing, are actually achievements.
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