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standard fit for a stealth bomber

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Syrilian
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-06 16:29:16 UTC
So one of my long term goals in the game is to be able to fit and fly a solo bomber or maybe fly fleet with the Bombers Bar. I've started to look into fits for a stealth bomber and found a wide variety of fits. Is there no standard fits for a SB, or am I missing something?
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#2 - 2015-04-06 17:21:07 UTC
Join the Bombers Bar mailing list. (I'm sure the name of the mailing list is in the BOMBERS BAR chat channel message of the day, and there may be more than one mailing list.) In one of the mails that you get automatically upon joining the list, they will provide several fits.

The "standard fits" fall into a couple of basic patterns: with a bomb launcher, or without a bomb launcher (i.e. torpedoes only).
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#3 - 2015-04-06 17:27:35 UTC
On the contrary, bomber fits are hugely standard because they're so difficult to fit. Example:

NEMESIS SOLO
[low]
-Ballistic Control
-Ballistic Control

[mid]
-1 MN Microwarp Drive
-Warp Disruptor
-Warp Scrambler
-Target Painter

[high]
-Covert Ops Cloaking Device
-Core Probe Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher

[rigs]
-Rigor Catalyst
-CPU Overclocker

This is basically what I fly for solo, providing decent damage application and options for stabbed explorers. Metas not included so you can scale back or bling to your liking. I also wrote a full book on this with more detail but that's a good starting point.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-04-06 19:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Fits depend on purpose, there are fits for solo ganking, solo missioning, for fleet, for bomb runs, for blops, for hunter killer, if you want to survive, you want to loot, want to be on all killmails, don't care, etc. Bombers Bar / Spectre Fleet fits are basic fits for fleets ... take it forward from this, be creative. Also race is important, Nemesis and Manticore are similar where Purifier and Hound have a slightly different setup.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Sleepaz Den
Artificial Memories
#5 - 2015-04-07 00:15:35 UTC
If you're going to run with a handful of friends only and can throw bombs, you can fly them with damps only. Decloak, lock up, throw bomb+one volley torps in the same tick. Will get you around 12k em damage for each bomber. Heated damps are roughly -40%/-45% with script.

Quote:
[Purifier, Ambush]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Bomb Launcher II, Electron Bomb
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Targeting System Subcontroller II


If you want to hunt Drakes, can fit them with T2 launchers for around 750dps heated. Also works well against industrials and barges. If everyone around you has painters and some even ferry webs, just use T2 torps against all the bigger things.

Quote:
[Purifier, T2]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II

Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II


Similar can be done for the Hound. (5/3/3 layout) For dps reasons, it makes little sense to use a manticore or nemesis, ever.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#6 - 2015-04-08 12:27:23 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
On the contrary, bomber fits are hugely standard because they're so difficult to fit. Example:

NEMESIS SOLO
[low]
-Ballistic Control
-Ballistic Control

[mid]
-1 MN Microwarp Drive
-Warp Disruptor
-Warp Scrambler
-Target Painter

[high]
-Covert Ops Cloaking Device
-Core Probe Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher
-Arbalest Torpedo Launcher

[rigs]
-Rigor Catalyst
-CPU Overclocker

This is basically what I fly for solo, providing decent damage application and options for stabbed explorers. Metas not included so you can scale back or bling to your liking. I also wrote a full book on this with more detail but that's a good starting point.


Um.... you kind of forgot the bomb launcher. I think it's called a bomber for a reason.

If you're using this in a wh, please find and engage anyone in my corp. You'll need to scram AND point everyone in my corp, all our doctrines require at least 1 WCS to prevent silly kb losses.


So general fitting advice for bombers.

Empire and lowsex - no bomb launcher. Null and wh - bomb launcher.

Don't fit a probe launcher on it. (use cov ops frig [straight up scanning] or stratios/astero [pvp minded scanning])

Damage rigs and painters are ideal for bombers.

MWD is a pretty good idea.

Other than for haulers - scram is worthless and will get you killed quickly

Tanking - use your cov ops cloak and your brain to pick targets wisely.

Disclaimer - There is a whole specific bomber thing going on for lowsex plexes and fw stuff that I know nothing about - the above is for wh/null only.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#7 - 2015-04-08 17:10:33 UTC
Bombs are a nice to have but for solo work I find the time and risk of refitting via mobile depot onerous and dangerous. Look up that Russian guy with the most solo Purifier kills, he has one point and no bombs!

90% of solo bomber targets will die so fast they won't align out. And the ones that take a while to kill just bring more bombers, stab problem solved.

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evomad2
The Straw Men
#8 - 2015-04-08 20:50:22 UTC
Dual med ASB bomber for if you get sick of popping haulers & miners and want to solo kill something that can apply damage to you / has drones / doesn't die very quickly:

[Manticore]

[low]
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

[mid]
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50

[high]
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I (offline)
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

[rigs]
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II

Offline probe launcher can be onlined for those awkward 'lost in a wormhole' moments.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#9 - 2015-04-11 10:50:13 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
If you're using this in a wh, please find and engage anyone in my corp. You'll need to scram AND point everyone in my corp, all our doctrines require at least 1 WCS to prevent silly kb losses.


I feel like maybe requiring that all your corp-mates' ships be fitted so that they can't ever target the SB pilot back to trap him, and potentially have reduced tank due to a bad low-slot choice, is going to be somewhat counterproductive if you're trying to make your fleet bomber-resistant.

Most bomber pilots FIT a disruptor, sure, but who RELIES on one for kills? Honestly in w-space I think most of us would just bail if you weren't within a couple volleys of dead after the initial bomb + 2 x volley anyhow, that much more tank than expected for a proper vulnerable target kinda screams "this is a trap" to anyone paranoid enough to make stealth boats their primary hulls.

Not that the WCS thing is a bad idea in general, because a lot of stuff DOES rely on tackle to secure kills, just not a great counter for bombers specifically.
Brutus Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-04-15 11:53:05 UTC
Syrilian wrote:
So one of my long term goals in the game is to be able to fit and fly a solo bomber or maybe fly fleet with the Bombers Bar. I've started to look into fits for a stealth bomber and found a wide variety of fits. Is there no standard fits for a SB, or am I missing something?


Also join spectre fleet channel and join one of Riot Ricks Bomber fleets this is where i learnt to fly a bomber and they also get ALOT of kills...