Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi everyone,

When I started to play, I was a lonely miner. Then I integrated a mining corp, then another, and then joined a French corp in 0.0.
There I mined enough to buy / build my first capital ship, a carrier.
The problem is, I now make much more money killing pirates than mining (even with rorqual boosts), so when my exhumers undock, I feel I am losing my time (and wealth). The only comfort I have is that now the belts really look amazing.

Anyway I feel that the mining income should be higher. We could have ships mining more, the problem is it would most likely decrease the ore price, so that's not a realistic option.

Here are the solutions I thought of :
1)Easiest one : Concord decreets that the drifter threat is really high and that we all need to prepare for that. To encourage pilots getting more / bigger / better equiped ships they create a subvention to ore/ice mining (yeah, that's a kind of bounty on ore). No drawbacks on the economy, just wealthier miners. It would also be possible to apply that through a "mining ess" (subventions stocked in until shared / stolen)

2)new mining ships ie t3 mining ships, with same ore/ice throughput, but with one added capacity (linked to subsystem choice ?)
I thought that they could use some kind of electromagnetical device that would gather things around them (possible new mini game here). The things could be :
-gas (would decrease the booster prices)
-moon mining components (0.0 repartition is quite bad, you need a large zone to gather all you need. This solution will decrease the moon mining profitability)
-new thing to sell at Concord
-other, keeping in mind that what you gather will have its price decrease.

Thanks for reading until the end :-)
Imariel

yeah more money! nay t3 miner, that's a CODE wet dream right there.

A way more active mining gameplay would make go away a lot of afkers, each time a mining mini-game is proposed, there is always someone to say "may I say nay, I love my boring (aka easy to multibox) gameplay about pressing F1. But that's not what I want as a miner, I really want a dedicated profession that doesn't involve only very expensive ships and dedicated long-times to train skills, I want to make a difference by my (player) skills.

That would already make a big change, we don't need other ships or NPC stuff, except better mining missions but solo only maybe.

The future new drilling plateforme can go in the same direction also

Or as supplementary alternatives, promote increased demand. Support nullsec & sov reform to increase the number of fights; support BS rebalancing to make these mineral-hoggging hulls popular agai,

Why not thinking it to be funnier instead ? Every isk earned, even if it stays a low income across the game, would make it more rewarding to the miners. I don't know for others but for me fun is way more important that in-game money, plus as a solo miner I just don't need isk, just enough to pay my ships and fit. And a miner isn't supposed to lose his ship every two days, but supposedly never.

Exactly this.

Why isn't a miner suppose to never lose his ship? The game (or at least the economy) would be pretty broken if resource generating industrial ships like miners would be invulnerable.

But if you find mining fun and don't want to ever lose your ship just mine on the test server. 100% safety there and all the fun!

As to the OP, the ease of multiboxing, and especially botting, is what is keeping mineral prices down. Pressure CCP to step up their efforts to stop bots, and longer term, work on changes to the mining mechanic itself to make it much less easy to multibox if you want mining incomes to rise.

Cutting down on the flow of ISK into the game is another way to buff mining.

One of OP's suggestions was that CONCORD should pay an ore bounty, which would be an ISK source.