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Which Amar Corp with the best LP value/store to run missions for?

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Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-03 06:31:33 UTC
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#2 - 2015-04-03 07:32:24 UTC
This is your friend . Thing is, LP store items value is not fixed. It is developing. And you have to check your very market cause even same module can have totaly different price in Amarr and in Rens. Depends on where you are, where you buy necessary tags etc...
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#3 - 2015-04-03 12:53:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Mac
OP, work for Ministry of Internal Order first to unlock the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc if you haven't.

List of corps that have 2 security agents in same solar system:
1. Theology Council
2. Imperial Armanets
3. Ministry of Internal Order
4. Nurtura
5. Kador Family
6. Carthum Conglomerate
7. Ministry of War
8. Inherent Implants

All corps listed above offer:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer
warfare mindlink
smartbombs, armor repairers, nosferatu, energy destabilizers, turrets, heat sinks, DDA, omni.tracking
armor hardeners/membranes/platings, cap.boosters, cap.rechargers
frenq.crystals

1 and 5(edit) offers:
exploration hardwires and cap.recharger BPCs

2, 4, 6, and 8 offers:
industry hardwires, TIL-1 Nexus Chip (BS class)
armor hardener/membrane/plating BPCs

3 and 7 offers:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer BPCs
almost all hardwires except listed above
SB/nosferatu/energy destabilizer BPCs

You can decide which corp is best for you Blink
If you looking for LP/ISK then SoE is best in these days.

I'd work with Ministry of Internal Order.
Julius Priscus
#4 - 2015-04-03 13:11:54 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-04-03 20:26:46 UTC
24th legion
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#6 - 2015-04-04 03:44:25 UTC
Navy ships = FW, they get them crazy cheap. You won't compete from a regular store.
Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-04-04 05:37:43 UTC
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?
Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-04-04 06:05:30 UTC
Mr Mac wrote:
OP, work for Ministry of Internal Order first to unlock the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc if you haven't.

List of corps that have 2 security agents in same solar system:
1. Theology Council
2. Imperial Armanets
3. Ministry of Internal Order
4. Nurtura
5. Kador Family
6. Carthum Conglomerate
7. Ministry of War
8. Inherent Implants

All corps listed above offer:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer
warfare mindlink
smartbombs, armor repairers, nosferatu, energy destabilizers, turrets, heat sinks, DDA, omni.tracking
armor hardeners/membranes/platings, cap.boosters, cap.rechargers
frenq.crystals

1 and 3 offers:
exploration hardwires and cap.recharger BPCs

2, 4, 6, and 8 offers:
industry hardwires, TIL-1 Nexus Chip (BS class)
armor hardener/membrane/plating BPCs

3 and 7 offers:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer BPCs
almost all hardwires except listed above
SB/nosferatu/energy destabilizer BPCs

You can decide which corp is best for you Blink
If you looking for LP/ISK then SoE is best in these days.

I'd work with Ministry of Internal Order.


Thank you Mr Mac this is very useful information. I didn't even know that Amarr had and epic mission arc. And yes I'm fully aware that SOE have the best LP point store value over anything else out there. The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions. But grinding missions is very boring for just that so since I'm doing Amarr missions I may as well do the ones that offer the best rewards. And sigh....by the looks of it they all suck majorly compared to SOE. Even so I thought there may be at least ONE that offers some goodies that a few know about so here I am begging for that inside info. I'd also be interested in knowing which corporations offer lv 4 missions like Vengeance and Blockade in abundance.
Julius Priscus
#9 - 2015-04-04 15:57:24 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


rather not say in public..
voetius
Grundrisse
#10 - 2015-04-04 17:05:22 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Mr Mac wrote:
OP, work for Ministry of Internal Order first to unlock the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc if you haven't.

List of corps that have 2 security agents in same solar system:
1. Theology Council
2. Imperial Armanets
3. Ministry of Internal Order
4. Nurtura
5. Kador Family
6. Carthum Conglomerate
7. Ministry of War
8. Inherent Implants

All corps listed above offer:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer
warfare mindlink
smartbombs, armor repairers, nosferatu, energy destabilizers, turrets, heat sinks, DDA, omni.tracking
armor hardeners/membranes/platings, cap.boosters, cap.rechargers
frenq.crystals

1 and 3 offers:
exploration hardwires and cap.recharger BPCs

2, 4, 6, and 8 offers:
industry hardwires, TIL-1 Nexus Chip (BS class)
armor hardener/membrane/plating BPCs

3 and 7 offers:
navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer BPCs
almost all hardwires except listed above
SB/nosferatu/energy destabilizer BPCs

You can decide which corp is best for you Blink
If you looking for LP/ISK then SoE is best in these days.

I'd work with Ministry of Internal Order.


Thank you Mr Mac this is very useful information. I didn't even know that Amarr had and epic mission arc. And yes I'm fully aware that SOE have the best LP point store value over anything else out there. The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions. But grinding missions is very boring for just that so since I'm doing Amarr missions I may as well do the ones that offer the best rewards. And sigh....by the looks of it they all suck majorly compared to SOE. Even so I thought there may be at least ONE that offers some goodies that a few know about so here I am begging for that inside info. I'd also be interested in knowing which corporations offer lv 4 missions like Vengeance and Blockade in abundance.


If you are looking for Vengeance, Blockade etc try the Khanid Navy agent in Palas, it's not Amarr exactly but they are allied so you get derived standings to Amarr from storylines and that agent gives out mostly all the highest payout missions.

I used to use the Theology agent in Sasoutikh as there are two agents in the station as Mr Mac says above (nice list btw). It doesn't appear on some lists as it is close to low sec but as there are no stations in those nearest low sec systems it is vary rare that you have to turn one down.

Ducia - I recall getting standings with them years ago but I can't recall now why, I will have a look. Thanks for the tip :)
Justin Zaine
#11 - 2015-04-04 20:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Zaine
Quote:
The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions.


I would strongly advise against this.

It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0.

Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again.

If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding.

Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-04-05 00:53:49 UTC
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


rather not say in public..


Then could you please message me the info in game or send me the info via eve mail. I won't share your secrets with anyone Julius if you tell me not to.
Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-04-05 00:59:24 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
24th legion


Never heard of their recommendation for doing level 4 missions before and Google doesn't give me much info about them. Could you please enlighten me a bit about them?
Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-04-05 01:06:09 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
Quote:
The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions.


I would strongly advise against this.

It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0.

Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again.

If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding.

Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub.


That's not bad for 3 weeks of anti-Amarr missioning. I think it's worth it due to the fact that mist of deadspace and smash the supplier have some of the highest level 4 mission payout. And you can always go back to doing Amarr missions once your standings reach the 5.0 mark.
Julius Priscus
#15 - 2015-04-05 01:10:42 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


rather not say in public..


Then could you please message me the info in game or send me the info via eve mail. I won't share your secrets with anyone Julius if you tell me not to.



done.
Julius Priscus
#16 - 2015-04-05 01:23:52 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


bpc's... that's where you make your money/isk.

buy things like Inavy bpc's and built and sell. if you farm up 360k lp a week. at present prices of around 80m isk per inavy heatsink x20

1.6b minus any tags you need to buy.
Justin Zaine
#17 - 2015-04-05 03:07:18 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Justin Zaine wrote:
Quote:
The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions.


I would strongly advise against this.

It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0.

Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again.

If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding.

Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub.


That's not bad for 3 weeks of anti-Amarr missioning. I think it's worth it due to the fact that mist of deadspace and smash the supplier have some of the highest level 4 mission payout. And you can always go back to doing Amarr missions once your standings reach the 5.0 mark.


That's my point, I haven't spent 3 weeks "anti-Amarr missioning," I've only been running the regular storyline missions that you get offered for every 16 regular missions. I've been turning down faction kill missions left and right, and my amarr standings have still dropped. If I ran every anti-amarr mission I was offered, I'd be reduced to level 1 amarr standing by the end of a night.

Point being, save your valuable amarr standing for the SOE storyline missions and don't run any amarr-kill missions whatsoever.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-04-05 05:58:45 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Justin Zaine wrote:
Quote:
The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions.


I would strongly advise against this.

It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0.

Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again.

If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding.

Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub.


That's not bad for 3 weeks of anti-Amarr missioning. I think it's worth it due to the fact that mist of deadspace and smash the supplier have some of the highest level 4 mission payout. And you can always go back to doing Amarr missions once your standings reach the 5.0 mark.


That's my point, I haven't spent 3 weeks "anti-Amarr missioning," I've only been running the regular storyline missions that you get offered for every 16 regular missions. I've been turning down faction kill missions left and right, and my amarr standings have still dropped. If I ran every anti-amarr mission I was offered, I'd be reduced to level 1 amarr standing by the end of a night.

Point being, save your valuable amarr standing for the SOE storyline missions and don't run any amarr-kill missions whatsoever.


Ahh, I see. I didn't know that i'd be this difficult to balance the Amarr/Gallentee/Minmatard standings. Turning down Mist of Deadspace and Smash the Supplier makes me cringe everytime. Geez I wish CCP change this. Why offer such great missions in the mission pool that kill standings with a major empire? Only storyline missions should hurt/increase standings and nothing else. If running incursions were better I'd just do that instead of this missioning crap.
Devasha Detrasha
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-04-05 06:03:06 UTC
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


bpc's... that's where you make your money/isk.

buy things like Inavy bpc's and built and sell. if you farm up 360k lp a week. at present prices of around 80m isk per inavy heatsink x20

1.6b minus any tags you need to buy.


Hmm, I see. Then this might not work for me then since I don't have any manufacturing/invention alts. You really have to go out of your way to make any decent isk doing these missions huh? I wonder if incursions are better.
voetius
Grundrisse
#20 - 2015-04-05 07:58:56 UTC
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
Devasha Detrasha wrote:
Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store.



Ducia foundry


The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?


bpc's... that's where you make your money/isk.

buy things like Inavy bpc's and built and sell. if you farm up 360k lp a week. at present prices of around 80m isk per inavy heatsink x20

1.6b minus any tags you need to buy.


Hmm, I see. Then this might not work for me then since I don't have any manufacturing/invention alts. You really have to go out of your way to make any decent isk doing these missions huh? I wonder if incursions are better.


You probably only need Industry I to build the BPCs, Show Info on a BPC in the LP store and look at the skills tab under Manufacturing IIRC. I think everyone starts with that skill and the ability to run 1 manufacturing job, or if not it only takes a few minutes to train the skills up. Whether it's a good idea or not I wouldn't say but the skill requirements shouldn't hold you back if you are just building the odd BPC once in a while.
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