EVE General Discussion

Meh. Just be one of the first 5 guys who delivers a canister of "Titan Black Prototype" to Godel Ring station in Ededleen and you'll earn a Titan Black in RL. "Titan Black Prototype" are a rare good available in unlimited supply at a undisclosed starport.

There is no opportunity for CCP here.
Like i stated before.

In order to buy item for plex :
1. you need to have account in eve
2. you need to have enough isk to buy plexes ( it will be cheaper to buy item off the market rather plexes for it)
3. plex bought by other players and put to market will be bought by isk and used to buy VR, this will look like this :
$ paid to buy plex ->CCP -> PLEX -> ISK -> PLEX -> CCP -> $ for VR supplier

Just to summarize.
There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP.
IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time.

This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion.

You still don't get it.
Each plex is RL cash paid to CCP.
CCP don't make VR head sets, so they need to buy VR using RL cash.
Now each plex that lands on the market provide CCP with additional income, now each plex used to buy VR will mean no income for CCP.
Plex prices will raise not because we have something new and meaningful in the game , but because some people will decide to speculate/stack out PLEX as it will have new added value : $CASHOUT$

Think about it.
Good VR cost around 2000 $ or euro.
Now in order to get discount you need waaay more than 100 , even then this will not be 90% discount but rather 10-15%

Now lets assume that CCP makes this promotion, and it bring somehow new players (it can only target current subscribers) - what type of players it will attract :
Group 1: I heard about " VR for in game currency". EVE is worth playing because of the game play
or
Group 2: I heard about "VR for in game currency". I want to play this game to buy myself RL game item that i can use or sell on ebay


You want VR promotion from CCP?

All accounts that will be active for at least 6 months at the end of the 2015 will have possibility to win one of the 5 VR headsets.
Each active account increase the chance!

THIS IS PROPER PROMOTION, not something that will allow big cashout.

Why would you come play the game to get a headset if you can get it cheaper by just buying the damn thing? It will OBVIOUSLY cost more in PLEX worth of $$$ than straight up $$$ because if it does not then CCP will be pissing money away.

Just to give you an example.

The past offer was a GTX 560 for 20 (TWENTY) PLEX. At 15$ a PLEX, that's 300$ of PLEX for a card that launched at least 8 month before this promo was created with a MSRP of 199$.

No one will buy PLEX from CCP to get their VR set because once again, it will be cheaper to buy it off the shelves unless you somehow happen to have the PLEX on hands or the ISK to buy said PLEX. Anybody supposedly starting to play EVE to buy this will need months of grinding to amass the required wealth unless he hits a goldmine with a scam.

I didn't get your post at first but have just looked at the Elite Dangerous newsletter #68 and see what you were referring to Might go try and grab one if they're still there.

Hm.

20 Million PS4 owners,
next to even more PC owners.

Why exactly should they help you sidestep your inability to buy it yourself?

Of course there are people who can't afford it for various reasons,
but why in hell should they have one if they can not buy one?

The argument of "promotes PLEX and the game" is crap.
Valkyrie does not need this kind of promotion,
as don't the VR sets. They are literally self promoting fountains of money.

Besides, it would only attract more cheapskates who do not want to pay money
but think they should have everything. No need for these.

If you want something, achieve it. Hording PLEX to get one doesn't count as one,
not even if you are a carebear who feeds his ego by shooting easy targets.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

IMO this would be a great thing, and fully support it if it does happen.

I admit I could have written down the reasons why I believe you are begging.
This really isn't anything personal, it's based on rationale and I can explain it.


Not sure how to start.



.) Sony will be promoting their headset heavily. They have billions and 20 Million PS4 users.

.) The reach CCP has, compared to Sony's, is rediculously small.
Let's take an unreasonably high guess how many would actually pay with PLEX
for the headset and say it's 1000 players. Even assuming that the headset *only* costs 300,
that would be 300.000 for a mere 1000 players. Now let's imagine a worst case
and assume it's 5000 players. That would be 1.500.000 ...

Hundreds of thousands are not a "drop in the bucket" ...
... for a relatively small company like CCP ...
... especially considering the fact how small CCP's audience is.


Even if we assume Sony can give a 50% cut (HA...),
that would still be 150.000 for a rediculously low amount of 1000 players.

1000 players compared to the millions who will be reached by Sony,
not even talking about all the media out there who are hyping it to no end.

.) Valkyrie will be a launch title and bundled with Sony's headset. This,
plus the fact that it's the first AAA title for a headset,
plus the fact that it's a headset,
makes this thing a self promoter.

Everyone is talking about it.
Everyone who has tried it loves it.


.) The only people such a "promotion" would attract, are those who want a headset,
but are not willing or capable of affording one. These people will not shelve out even
15 bucks a month to play this game. At best, they would stay and play for free.

The fact that PLEX are being paid by others does not matter here,
because they do not add money to the system. They want to play for free.
(that's fine, as many pay by PLEX, but it also kills your argument.)
(There's no value in people joining with the aim of not paying at all.)


I fully understand why you brought up a promotional value as argument,
because it helps you support your point. Facts of the matter, though,
do not support it. You should have thought this through first.


TL;DR:

CCP promoting it via giving out free headsets is a waste of money,
because Sony can and will do a much better job.

Gee, I did.
Doesn't mean anything, though. We're still talking about hundreds of thousands for a relatively small audience,
especially compared to Sony's.

Yeah ... so?

How does any of this change anything about what I have written above?

Nothing. Unless you magically assume CCP does not have to pay
anything for any of these headsets. I do absolutely doubt your understanding of
the words "partnering up" ... it's as if it meant "get it for free".

Comparing this to the gfx card doesn't even make sense.
These are completely different dimensions.


It's a waste of CCP's money and promotes literally nothing Sony
couldn't do a million times better.

And they are doing it. Valkyrie will be bundled with the headset,
the headset and Valkyrie are getting promoted by Sony,
which means that Sony is also promoting EVE ONLINE automagically.

It's a waste of CCP's money to do the same thing someone else can do much better
and actually does it *for free*.


You do not even care about the facts.
You want CCP to waste their money so you get something for free.


If someone talked CCP into doing such a promotion, I'd have to quesiton their marketing
department and collective intelligence. There is *no* need for such a promotion,
as those with more money and higher reach can and will promote the headset,
Valkyrie and thus also EVE ONLINE much better than CCP ever could.


I really can not make it any easier for you to understand. I can admit that this might
be a failure on my part, but I do still wrongly expect people to think while they read.

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