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Ever just sold it all and started over with a large bank?

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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#21 - 2015-03-28 23:19:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lfod Shi
Throne of Games wrote:
Been playing Skillqueue Online for I can't even think how long any more. Have toyed with the idea of just selling it all on the bazaar and starting over fresh with a large bank, like an inheritance that grandfather passed on when he left.

Have any of you actually ever done this? Toyed with the idea? How'd it go for you if you did so?


Kind of, sold everything but 3 ships (one per char), 5000 missiles, and a missile bp. Gave away the rest. Very liberating.

♪ They'll always be bloodclaws to me ♫

Aphsala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-03-28 23:36:32 UTC
Sell the glorious mess that is my main character? good heavens never, i love that character
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#23 - 2015-03-28 23:50:06 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
No amount of isk is worth starting over the SP grind.



But but skill points don't matter!
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-03-29 00:07:36 UTC
I thought about it. Always end up not doing it.

It's just that my main can do SO MUCH that would take absolutely forever to train up again. Ignoring weapon and ship skills (which I lack diversity on, and that's why I get tempted) I would need to train fitting skills, mobility skills, support skills, tanking skills, industry skills, social skills...

It would just be faster to train them on my main.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-03-29 00:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
Harrison Tato wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
No amount of isk is worth starting over the SP grind.



But but skill points don't matter!




Good observation skills! Big smile

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Hedion's oracle
Naari LLC
#26 - 2015-03-29 04:52:47 UTC
Jack Hayson wrote:
What would be the point in doing that?
You would have tons of ISK for buying shiny ships but no character that could fly them.

One reason is a bad employment history, not much else, pointless really.

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Scarlett-Rose
Kador Defence Initiative
#27 - 2015-03-29 10:40:47 UTC
It's something I've done, and something I have both enjoyed and regretted with equal measure.

My first character (from launch in 2003) was deleted when I first quit EVE in what was genuinely it's darkest hour (early 2004) - the low numbers and huge bugs drove numbers down significantly in the early days, when peak was only 5-6k players at best, and I was convinced it was over.

My second character (2004-2005) came a while later, returning sheepishly, behind my brother and friends on SP but otherwise content. I played too much, too fast, too hard. I burned out when I realised it was taking more time and effort to make corp profits than I was putting in to my actual real world job.

After another break, I was back (2006), this time, I wanted a complete change of direction, I wanted to focus on Amarrian RP, and damn, my old Minmatar null-sec character wasn't going to cut it. He was sold, and I started over. This is one move I've never regretted, even losing the SP, I met the greatest bunch of people in my Amarrian NPC starter corp. We gelled, it fit, EVE became the social MMO I always hoped it would be. We formed a corp, we went from newbie miners to successful freighter manufacturers. I stayed for over 3 years.

Ultimately, I took another break though, this time for real life - I met and married a wonderful woman, kids came along, I stayed away from EVE for nearly 5 years, before returning once more last year.

This time, I haven't sold or deleted my old character, but it is something I am tempted to do each time I log in with him. He has SP, but I have few connections to the game through him. The people I knew have long ago left. What we achieved together is long gone. Flying as my old character has its benefits, but it also feels vaguely.... wrong. He is a misfit now, he doesn't fit my new goals or my new vision of EVE. It has been a frequent temptation to sell him and start over.

To a degree, I have, I have started this alt account and tried to re-live that newbie experience. It isn't easy rebuilding those skill points, starting over when I know I can log in to my main account and jump in to almost any ship. But that feels somehow like. cheating. I have the isk from my past, mostly sat in my wallet doing very little. I log my old main in and have tried to do things with him, he certainly can earn isk more easily, but the satisfaction isn't there. I don't know why.

I feel like I'm looking back in a wish to relive a newbie wonder and fascination that faded over a decade ago, but EVE isn't the same game and nor am I the same person. Pragmatically I should just embrace the SP of my past, it would help me do more. But somehow, I just can't shake of that temptation to sell him off and keep pushing this new character instead.
Throne of Games
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-03-29 13:22:06 UTC
Thanks for everyone who posted about their experiences or urges. For those who wonder why the hell anyone would entertain a thought like this, or are insistent it's because of dubious employment record, it's 1 simple reason. EvE isn't what it was for me in 2004. I could beat EvE for life and just uninstall and never log n again but before that, I'd like to make one last attempt to find something that makes me want to continue playing.

Starting over as a newbie. where even if I just used the 50~ billion isk I'd get from selling off things, and dump it into plex subs, leaving myself with 10mil isk on a fresh character seems to be close to the only thing left of the ideas I've thought about.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#29 - 2015-03-29 13:28:26 UTC
I've done it many times, I'm in fact selling this one heh. It doesn't necessarily make sense but sometimes I get bored of a character.
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ISD Alliance
#30 - 2015-03-29 14:01:52 UTC
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
#31 - 2015-03-29 18:10:20 UTC
I sold my original main, still undecided if it was a bad idea or not.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-03-29 18:23:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
Amarrchecko wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
"Interesting misapprehension" underlying this OP. The assumption being how much ISK you got...if you've done this any length of time, it's the SP, stupid. It's the SP. You'd have to really have a good reason to dump a significant amount of skill points. Screw the ISK. That comes and goes. SP? Heh. If you don't know by now, you'll figure it out....
eventually....hopefully...

or not. Big smile


He knows he would have a ton of isk if he sold stuff. He knows he wouldn't have any skillpoints if he sold his characters. That IS what he is talking about.
Let's have one big derp! DERP. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I hope you were elevated one IQ point in the process.

There's a difference between developing your "main" and building a toon to sell. The assumption of the OP would be suddenly getting the urge to cash in the main you've been working on for years, supposedly with some sort of cogent goal in mind.

The loss of SP and back to the drawing board would be too ridiculous to imagine. IF you think it was boring training one toon, try training the same things to the same levels a second time. I don't see what is gained besides the ISK, and if that's the goal, then ... yeah, the forum must be really dull for this thread to happen.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Veld God
Zonk Squad
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2015-03-30 01:38:10 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
No amount of isk is worth starting over the SP grind.


This. All that days sitting useless at station etc.

It remembers me the first days of eve with 1 month of Learning Skills semi afk Rookie Ship Spinning. Never ever.
Natalia Abre-Kai
#34 - 2015-03-30 07:01:14 UTC
Four times, does not bother me too much. It's pretty fun depending on what you are doing.
LordSwift
Wrabble Wrousers
#35 - 2015-03-30 07:53:01 UTC
Could never fathom selling this toon. 127mil sp. it will die with me when i go, probably the servers will die first.

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Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"

Mal: "Politely."

Isalone
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-03-30 13:06:47 UTC
Selling all your items won't solve anything - you'll end up buying most of the stuff back shortly. If you're trying to get out of an eve burn-out, forcing yourself to do a tedious and pointless task will only make it worse.

Selling your char(s) - most of the previous answers adressed this. This isn't WOW where by starting a new char you get to experience all those noob areas once again and still are able to hit max level in 2-3 weeks. You'll die of boredom thinking "****, I can't do this or this or that - not enough sp". It's not true that SP doesn't matter. At one point more of it doesn't make a difference but there's nothing fun in trying to come up with something to do with a low SP character, especially when you're an experienced player.

I was in your situation at least 2 or 3 times. I ended up in corps where nobody logged in, tried to play absolutely by myself. I still was slowly losing interest for the game. The solution for me (a pretty obvious one, now that I think of it) was finding a group of people to play with. A group big enough to always have at least a few friends online to do stuff with. A group of people who enjoy the same things you do. I never stopped looking until I found my "endgame".

Never tried FW? Go for it. Never lived in a high class WH? Look for a decent sized corp that does. Join a NPSI fleet. Gank a hulk in hisec. There are people out there who do it on a daily basis. Keep looking and you'll find it.

Good luck
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-03-30 14:36:46 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
I would never sell my character. It's like selling my soul.


It's the names for me. All of my characters have names I use over multiple games going back to my first MMO. If this character could become Gallente Citizen 12345 and I could shift the name, I'd be more likely to consider the Skill sheet an asset and put it up for sale.
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#38 - 2015-03-30 19:17:35 UTC
I used to train characters for sale way back when. At some point, I started using the trainees for things. I've had 4 sets of "mains" over time. I keep one set for sentimental reasons. The others I trained up and used for various projects/purposes, then sold them and bought other, lower skill point characters, which I then trained, used, sold, rinse/repeat. Sometimes it's just better not to have all the baggage of one character/existence following you around and limiting your ability to participate in other areas of the game. Over time I've belonged to a bunch of the various sov holding alliances and done all sorts of things with other groups that I probably would not have been able to do if they had ever been aware of who I was in a previous incarnation.

Go ahead and start over. Just don't start from scratch on a new character. Buy one. Best way to build a story for yourself is to have a character training that you "just started the game with" and then you "saved your ISK up from grinding and sold some PLEX" and bought a better character, then your "original" main becomes your alt. You need to be able to point back to an "original" character because some organizations won't take you if they see all your characters are bought. They'll wonder where the ISK came from.

Have fun trying something new with new people. Or maybe turning "evil." That can be refreshing (but it's never as much fun as you hope it will be).
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