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[Proposal] Remove station games from High Sec War Decs.
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Ashera Yune
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-24 00:58:55 UTC
Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.

Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.

Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.

This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.



"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth."

 Kahlil Gibran
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-12-24 01:19:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Ashera Yune wrote:
Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.

Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.

Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.

This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.





This coming from an NPC'er.

First off...they are very painful..its called denial of freedom in high sec....freedom to blow up ship and pod at-will.

Secondly.... post with your main...or please kindly go away because your solution is highly irrational and smells of rage/tear fest of a bitter greifer and not the victim of a war dec.

Station games can be solved by being clever when it comes to tactics....make them come to you....dont bother camping them..you want to beat them by camping...fit for alpha strike and large numbers.

1 Shot 1 kill...simple.

PS: station games are always a point of contention...this i wont deny...but your attitude doesn't reflect someone interested in dealing with it from both sides of the fence...only the agressor side.

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reaver2145
Satanic Lobster Buttplug With Hidden Unicorn.
#3 - 2011-12-24 02:57:56 UTC
BRING MORE DPS
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#4 - 2011-12-24 07:20:12 UTC
Problem: You hate station games.

Solution: Fight on gates.

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Maxsim Goratiev
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-12-24 10:27:25 UTC
what do you mean buy gtting moved to 75 km away? like If i am sitting at the station at 0, and someone shooots me i teleport away from it?Big smile
It simply does not make sence.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-12-24 17:46:28 UTC
grief corp declares war on highsec corp
highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....

the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps.
war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-24 19:28:20 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
grief corp declares war on highsec corp
highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....

the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps.
war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least.


I see... so fighting back in "literally impossible" for you pubbies?
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#8 - 2011-12-24 21:04:48 UTC
I love capital station games.

And they dont even need hisec or wardecs.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#9 - 2011-12-25 07:56:39 UTC
Ashera Yune wrote:
Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.

Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.

Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.

This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.





???
The solution is, longer docking time rule when somebody aggressing at station. (1 minute now) Increasing to 15 minute, same as the aggression timer.
The neutral repping is an another story. Forbid docking too as a combatant.
Maxsim Goratiev
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-25 15:09:47 UTC
Neutral reppers need to be nuked from orbit. So do the station games. Then we can talk about wardeks being serious bisyness.
Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-12-25 17:54:18 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Ashera Yune wrote:
Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.

Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.

Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.

This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.





This coming from an NPC'er.

First off...they are very painful..its called denial of freedom in high sec....freedom to blow up ship and pod at-will.

Secondly.... post with your main...or please kindly go away because your solution is highly irrational and smells of rage/tear fest of a bitter greifer and not the victim of a war dec.

Station games can be solved by being clever when it comes to tactics....make them come to you....dont bother camping them..you want to beat them by camping...fit for alpha strike and large numbers.

1 Shot 1 kill...simple.

PS: station games are always a point of contention...this i wont deny...but your attitude doesn't reflect someone interested in dealing with it from both sides of the fence...only the agressor side.


This man said it all. Close the thread now.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#12 - 2011-12-25 18:44:00 UTC
Please don't remove station games, then I won't be able to quickly grab easy loot from those at war.Big smile


The only way to remove station games is either remove war decs (Sad) or add a stupid arbitrary mechanic as suggested in the OP. Both are bad ideas (IMO).
Goose99
#13 - 2011-12-25 21:46:22 UTC
Ashera Yune wrote:
Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke.


Wardec is a joke independent of station games.Lol

Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed.Bear
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#14 - 2011-12-25 22:30:41 UTC
Goose99 wrote:

Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed.Bear



Everyone should be required to be in a player alliance or a corp aligned to an NPC faction in order to access any meaningful ISK sources, and all those entities and players linked to them should automatically be at war with one another based on standings etc.

..and yes station games are pretty lame, that could use improvement, but not another means of PvP avoidance while making lots of ISK.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-12-25 22:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Xorv wrote:
Goose99 wrote:

Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed.Bear



Everyone should be required to be in a player alliance or a corp aligned to an NPC faction in order to access any meaningful ISK sources, and all those entities and players linked to them should automatically be at war with one another based on standings etc.

..and yes station games are pretty lame, that could use improvement, but not another means of PvP avoidance while making lots of ISK.


Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....


Oh wait.. Im sorry...you said pvp avoidance is bad... I figured you wantted to FORCE people to play the game YOU wantted them too.... so its only fair right?

Funny aint it?

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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#16 - 2011-12-25 23:02:52 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:

Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....


That doesn't make any sense, Ninja Salvagers would do that for free. Didn't understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your post, but I'm assuming it made even less sense.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-12-25 23:06:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Xorv wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:

Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....


That doesn't make any sense, Ninja Salvagers would do that for free. Didn't understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your post, but I'm assuming it made even less sense.



Aparently you don't speak sracastic-ese...let alone bother to think before you post.


EVE Online is EVE Online...not PVP Online...not PVE Online..not Hello Kitty Online.

If you cant figure that out...you have no business making such foolish statments.


PS: still don't get it? it was a joke....derp derp CONCORD taxing PVP'ers for wrecks left behind is a little obvious..but so was your statement about forcing players into war-dec'd NPC corps is just as much as a stupid joke as mine.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-12-25 23:55:36 UTC
fix station games
enable wardec reform
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-12-26 00:25:21 UTC
The obvious solution is If you don't like station games, then don't play them.

I'd suggest you go find someone that is willing to shoot back but I suspect that isn't really what you're looking for.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-12-26 01:43:23 UTC
Feligast wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
grief corp declares war on highsec corp
highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....

the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps.
war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least.


I see... so fighting back in "literally impossible" for you pubbies?


what would that accomplish? nothing, giving enemy a fight is what they want


and pubbie?
person plays game for fun<--no pubbie
person plays game specifically to target weaker players <-- pubbie detected. can't get touched in real life so needs the epeen to be loved.
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