EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello all, I am looking for some help. Please do not tell me to go to Battleclinic, that site is outdated and terrible for fits.

I am considering putting one of my mains in a Null Renter Corp. They are stationed in Vale where there's lots of Guristas type rats/anoms. I am having trouble finding ships that will work well down there that I can fly. Right now I am mainly doing L4's in a Mach working towards a Vargur, but should probably change my plan if I am moving to Null.

What I am looking for is if anyone can recommend various types of full fits that will be able to rat/solo combat anoms down there in Null. Preferably something other than an 'isktar' or 'rattlesnake' fit.

Thanks.

How about asking your corp mates?

Assuming you have some missile skills... have you considered the FoF Raven? I know, I know, no one uses FoF missiles for some reason but I personally have found them to be pretty decent, especially against Guristas. FoFs do not require the target to be locked and shoot beyond your max lock range (at least they used to and I haven't seen anything in patch notes proving otherwise in the past couple of months), as long as the missiles themselves can fly that far, so it's ideal against Guristas who use ECM.

The following fit is an omnitanked one, but you can switch hardeners to be Guristas specific. With Cal BS IV, Cruise missile spec IV, FoF missiles IV and supports at V, you get 525 dps with FoF missiles compared to 580~ dps with regular T1 cruises. I admit FoF missiles have their drawbacks, such as shooting drones, always targeting the closest target and thus sometimes leaving a NPC at 30% hull and allowing it to regenerate shield/amor, but it's a viable fit for some lazy ratting. Being able to sit at 150km+ also negates vast majority of any incoming damage.

[Raven, FoF]

6x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I)

Large Micro Jump Drive
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II

Damage Control II
4x Ballistic Control System II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Please don't hang me for suggesting FoF missiles.

You like Minmatar ships, so here's a Maelstrom fit I use for fighting Angels. Works fantastic with Angel rats, but they like to come in close. With Guristas you're likely to spend more time using the afterburner or MJD to get in to close range with them.

[Maelstrom, autocannnon with mjd]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

100MN Afterburner II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

For Guristas, because they jam, you might want to swap out a tracking enhancer for the low-slot version of an ECCM. Switch to Phased Plasma ammo for more thermal damage. And change shield hardeners and drones, of course. Naturally, you could do something very similar with a Machariel and it would be even faster. Artillery would solve the range problem, but ratting with large artillery is like Chinese water torture. You will be hitting self-destruct within an hour.

[Dominix, 165 km]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Drone Scope Chip II
Large Drone Scope Chip II
Large Ionic Field Projector I

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Hornet II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

This do over 650 DPS with optimal of 168 km, targeting of 170 km but the drone control range is 164 km. Use more faction damage amplifiers and you can swap one of the DLA I to DLA II so you have same optimal and drone control range.

Seeing as the Raven only has a 75m3 drone bay and 50mbit bandwidth, the obvious choice is to either have a set of medium and light drones of the preferred damage type (thermal/kinetic in this case) or two flights of light drones and a set of ECM drones in case you **** up and get tackled.

This.

For F sake, you are among your fellow renters. Ask them for advice on what works.

Couple mentions of asking my Corp, they have mostly said use an Isktar or Rattleisk/Tengu. I cannot fly any of those well enough to actually warrant flying them. Upon asking about what direction to head in, there's a lot of silence.

Finding a good, helpful, enjoyable Corp in this game is not easy. I have been through dozens of Corps and none of them really seem interested in "helping the new guy". I like the Corp I am in because once I am up on my feet, I will be able to fly with them. However, right now I just don't know what to do. I just sent a few fits worth of cargo down to our System, not sure when it will arrive. I am going to try those out and see where I stand.

Maybe I just picked the wrong types of ships, I really like the Minmatar but it sounds like I need a Gallente pilot. Maybe I should just try selling my Mach pilot and try to find a Tengu/Isktar pilot. Or I can just try training 30 days worth of drone skills and try the Isktar.

An entire thread where everyone agrees that FoF missiles are actually useful?

I was going to be helpful but I'm afraid I just lost my monocle and spilled tea everywhere.

When's the last time you fought Guristas rats? Being jammed 80% of the time lowers your DPS so much it can be difficult to break their passive recharge. Drones and FoF are really the only viable solutions.


OP do you have missile skills? Just slap some t1 cruise launchers on a Typhoon and load them with FoF. Train up your missile support skills as you go. You shouldn't be waiting 30 days to go ratting. Sure maybe it isn't optimal, but some is more than zero.