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CCP killing Industry in EVE online

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#21 - 2015-03-26 20:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Bowbndr wrote:
So your saying that none of the fourm members are capable of reading past the first sentence of a post?

No, I'm saying much more than that. You placed the emphasis on cloaky camping, no one else. Three of the six paragraphs in your post rant about cloaky camping.

It was the whole title of your previous thread and still remains the first thing that is read in this thread. It's highlighted as the only thing not being balanced by CCP, so you even give it special treatment and then mention it again later in the post.

The emphasis on it comes from you, not from others only reading a limited part of your text.

But even when you complain that everyone is just going to grief the hell out of your post, don't be surprised when it happens. It's the tone you set in your post.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#22 - 2015-03-26 20:58:16 UTC
Zura Namee wrote:
Anyone have the official cloaky camper thread response list? I seem to have misplaced it...

It's here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397030&find=unread

Was linked last time too.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#23 - 2015-03-26 21:01:36 UTC
Miner! Calm down!
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-03-26 21:04:50 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
Miners countered with bubbles between the belts and the gates to protect themselves CCP made a class of ship that was immune


This is the greatest thing I have ever read on this forum. I laughed so hard.
Bowbndr
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2015-03-26 21:06:52 UTC
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#26 - 2015-03-26 21:09:21 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
I know this topic has been discussed many times over, but the fact that CCP continues to “Balance” everything but cloaky camping makes me wonder if their whole point is really to kill off industry from eve completely. I know everyone is going to grief the hell out of this post and say I’m just a crying care bear but let’s look at what CCP has REALY done.

Ore Sites used to have to be scanned. PVPers who hunted the miners said it took too much time to scan them down so CCP removed that. When the pvpers still weren’t quick enough to catch the miners CCP made the exhumers’ and mining barges slower to warp. When Miners countered with bubbles between the belts and the gates to protect themselves CCP made a class of ship that was immune.

I ask CCP one simple question, WHAT out of any of that helped the miners? CCP has systematically taken away every strategy to protect themselves that miners have, and it is never enough, and yet the RULES allow for a person who contributes nothing but their plex to CCP to totally disrupt a system with total impunity.

If CCP really wants to Balance the game STOP MAKING EVERY BALANCE TO THE PVPers ADVANTAGE. You have to Balance the game, not just make it easier for people to buy a plex and Kill off a system. Between the cloaky t3 cruisers, interceptors and the cloaky campers, it is a wonder industry is still done in eve at all. If CCP keeps going down the road they are currently on, with some 30 day old toon being able to bring Billions of isk worth of assets to a halt, they might as well just take industry out of the game in one shot.

As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.

some may see that this is a copy of another post I made. I don't feel this is ranting if I am asking for open discussion on the issues. If the moderators and CCP would openly discuss the above concerns instead of just locking threads, some of us might see something other than CCP killing industry.


Go back to High Sec. Problem solved ... or is it?
Zura Namee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-03-26 21:13:29 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.


PvPers would just start using the ship that's now immune to warp disruption.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#28 - 2015-03-26 21:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bowbndr wrote:
I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.
Hardly, they'll just start to use the time honoured highsec technique of bumping your arse halfway across the system while shooting you or mustering a gank squad.

Not to mention using barges and exhumers as a way of avoiding bubbles, if you gave the Skiff or Procuror that kind of potential, on top of their current capabilities you can be sure as hell that everybody would abuse the hell out of it.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2015-03-26 21:20:13 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.

50% of your OP complains about cloaky camping.

As a pvper myself, I wouldn't care one bit if mining barges and exhumers were immune to warp disruption. I would actually see it as a good thing. I also have a nullsec industry alt and think there is still a long way to go before nullsec industry is self sustaining. But the problem isn't cloaky camping.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2015-03-26 21:20:22 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#31 - 2015-03-26 21:21:53 UTC
Zura Namee wrote:
Bowbndr wrote:
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.


PvPers would just start using the ship that's now immune to warp disruption.

*coughVenturecough*
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-03-26 21:27:36 UTC
What is OP talking about? I have seen a lot of industrial ships killing other ships.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-03-26 21:36:08 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.



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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#34 - 2015-03-26 21:45:08 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Bowbndr wrote:
So if someone mentions cloaky camping, even as a small part of a larger problem, that the only thing that is important is that one point? there were many points made. and I bet all we would hear is the PVPer's crying if they made exumers and mining bardges immune to warp disruption.



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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#35 - 2015-03-26 21:49:35 UTC
I feel like I closed this one already.

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